Saw an Idiot with a CCW Permit Badge at the mall - Page 3

SIGguy229 · July 13th, 2008, 09:11 PM

Ok.....really.....who was it?

Kerbouchard · July 13th, 2008, 09:16 PM

I could see myself doing the empty holster thing if I were in a place where I was prohibited from carrying as a sort of protest...

I think the badge is going a little overboard, but if I was a college student, I could perhaps understand it.

It would be one way of making the statement that I am licensed and yet prohibited from defending myself.

Jeremiah · July 13th, 2008, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sig sauer

Are those badges for real (for CCW holders), or can anyone buy them?

To answer your question, anyone can buy them out of a magazine or on the web.

HowardCohodas · July 13th, 2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by StevePVB

I'm not sure I can figure out what the legitimate use might be. What is your thinking?

When I was about to take my CCP training I had a conversation with an LEO who is an acquaintance of mine. I had just seen one of my favorite movies, "LA Confidential" and I remarked how the bad cop held up his LEO badge as other LEOs began to arrive. The idea of a badge for a CCP holder had never occurred to me. It was his suggestion a badge might be helpful in the aftermath of a SD shooting to cause even a momentary pause in LEO reaction while trying to sort out the good guys from the bad guys. Obviously the badge would remain concealed unless needed in this situation.

I ordered a badge. The company charged my credit card but never delivered. The credit card company returned my money but I never ordered another one from a different vendor. I am appalled at the virulent attacks on those who even suggest it might be an idea worth discussing.

Thumper · July 13th, 2008, 09:53 PM

A CCW badge "SCREAMS" (are you ready for this?)

LOOK AT ME! I COULDN'T POSSIBLY EVER BE A REAL COP... I'M A LOSER WANNA BE!

JonInNY · July 13th, 2008, 09:55 PM

Just plain idiotic, IMHO. Why in the world would you advertise that you are hiding something?

Rescue1325 · July 13th, 2008, 10:01 PM

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It was his suggestion a badge might be helpful in the aftermath of a SD shooting to cause even a momentary pause in LEO reaction while trying to sort out the good guys from the bad guys.

Couldn't that be seen as impersonating a LEO... flashing a badge. I know it would depend on the situation, but you don't actually have to say Im a cop, you just have to allow them to think it.

Bark'n · July 13th, 2008, 10:05 PM

Where the heck was his gun? Please don't tell me it fell out of his holster somewhere and there's a loose gun out there.

I can't figure out why he has his; badge (check) Holster (check) Gun? (uh oh)... maybe he left in on the back of the stool in the men's room.

havegunjoe · July 13th, 2008, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HowardCohodas

When I was about to take my CCP training I had a conversation with an LEO who is an acquaintance of mine. I had just seen one of my favorite movies, "LA Confidential" and I remarked how the bad cop held up his LEO badge as other LEOs began to arrive. The idea of a badge for a CCP holder had never occurred to me. It was his suggestion a badge might be helpful in the aftermath of a SD shooting to cause even a momentary pause in LEO reaction while trying to sort out the good guys from the bad guys. Obviously the badge would remain concealed unless needed in this situation.

I ordered a badge. The company charged my credit card but never delivered. The credit card company returned my money but I never ordered another one from a different vendor. I am appalled at the virulent attacks on those who even suggest it might be an idea worth discussing. I'm not talking about the comments on this thread which I consider pretty mild. On the other hand, the moderator on this forum has sometimes deleted comments I have made for no reason I can discern. Go figure.

And they told me the same thing as the officer you talked to. They told me it would not be considered impersonating an officer in that situation and should not be on display for any other reason that they could think of. It may very well cause LE to not shoot you thinking you are a bad guy. I don't own one, and don't intend to, but as a result of those conversations I am less critical of someone who does if they use it properly and keep it hidden.

Bark'n · July 13th, 2008, 10:12 PM

I don't need a badge... I'm doing my best to have my gun holstered and out of sight or my gun laying on the ground when LEO's show up.

If I am still having to hold the BG at gunpoint when LEO's arrive, I will follow their commands and follow all their instructions to the letter until they feel safe, have the situation in control and the time comes to identify myself and show my permit. They are not going to shoot me outright unless I do something stupid, make a furtive move, or point my gun at them.

If I am involved in a shooting in my county, every LEO knows me on sight and most know me as one of the medics on the tactical team, so probably no issues on home turf... but in all other jurisdictions, the above protocol applies. (our tactical medics are armed members and do have a sheriff's commission, just no powers of arrest so we are not certified LEO's)

July 13th, 2008, 09:11 PM	#21
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July 13th, 2008, 09:16 PM	#22
Kerbouchard VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 2,531	I could see myself doing the empty holster thing if I were in a place where I was prohibited from carrying as a sort of protest... I think the badge is going a little overboard, but if I was a college student, I could perhaps understand it. It would be one way of making the statement that I am licensed and yet prohibited from defending myself. __________________ Money can be lost or stolen, health and strength may fail, but what you have committed to your mind is yours forever. http://miscmusings.townhall.com/ Who is John Galt?

July 13th, 2008, 09:53 PM	#25
Thumper VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sparks, Nevada Posts: 3,646	A CCW badge "SCREAMS" (are you ready for this?) LOOK AT ME! I COULDN'T POSSIBLY EVER BE A REAL COP... I'M A LOSER WANNA BE! __________________ ALWAYS carry! - NEVER tell!

July 13th, 2008, 09:55 PM	#26
JonInNY VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mid-Hudson Valley New York State Posts: 2,517	Just plain idiotic, IMHO. Why in the world would you advertise that you are hiding something? __________________ "The right of voting for representatives is the primary right by which all other rights are protected." -- Thomas Paine ____________________________ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Who will guard the guards?) -- Juvenal

July 13th, 2008, 10:05 PM	#28
Bark'n VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: West Central Missouri Posts: 2,619	Where the heck was his gun? Please don't tell me it fell out of his holster somewhere and there's a loose gun out there. I can't figure out why he has his; badge (check) Holster (check) Gun? (uh oh)... maybe he left in on the back of the stool in the men's room. __________________ -Bark'n Semper Fi "The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, will prey on those of us who without one, would surely perish."

July 13th, 2008, 10:12 PM	#30
Bark'n VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: West Central Missouri Posts: 2,619	I don't need a badge... I'm doing my best to have my gun holstered and out of sight or my gun laying on the ground when LEO's show up. If I am still having to hold the BG at gunpoint when LEO's arrive, I will follow their commands and follow all their instructions to the letter until they feel safe, have the situation in control and the time comes to identify myself and show my permit. They are not going to shoot me outright unless I do something stupid, make a furtive move, or point my gun at them. If I am involved in a shooting in my county, every LEO knows me on sight and most know me as one of the medics on the tactical team, so probably no issues on home turf... but in all other jurisdictions, the above protocol applies. (our tactical medics are armed members and do have a sheriff's commission, just no powers of arrest so we are not certified LEO's) __________________ -Bark'n Semper Fi "The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, will prey on those of us who without one, would surely perish."

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