Saw an Idiot with a CCW Permit Badge at the mall - Page 6

Captain Crunch · July 14th, 2008, 01:50 AM

I'm surprised that nobody's mentioned that we've beat this poor old

before.

CHL Badges (It's a sticky at the top of this forum).

obxned · July 14th, 2008, 01:56 AM

Some dead horses just need more beating.

TN_Mike · July 14th, 2008, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Crunch

I'm surprised that nobody's mentioned that we've beat this poor old

before.

CHL Badges (It's a sticky at the top of this forum).

I considered it before I started the thread Captain, but, I thought this was different enough because I actually saw this buffoon walking around the mall.

dukalmighty · July 14th, 2008, 02:47 AM

It coulda been GECKO 45 undercover

HowardCohodas · July 14th, 2008, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Crunch

I'm surprised that nobody's mentioned that we've beat this poor old

before.

CHL Badges (It's a sticky at the top of this forum).

I think this thread has been more fair and balanced

.

QKShooter · July 14th, 2008, 03:09 AM

Howard.
Concerning your (above) comment.

This one:
On the other hand, the moderator on this forum has sometimes deleted comments I have made for no reason I can discern. Go figure.

We don't take accusations lightly here on DC especially when they are posted publicly rather than in Private Mail to a forum moderator.

I just reviewed all of your posts since your join date.

Yes, all of them...and you have had one (count em 1 AKA ONE) post deleted as being "Off Topic" to the thread of Carry On The First Date...when you posted:

Wouldn't carrying a full size 1911 in a SmartCarry be false advertising?

That's probably not an exact quote but, it's close.

That is the only post delete that is showing for you since you've joined here.
BTW: I only answered and responded to your complaint publicly because you elected to post it publicly.

Also...the content of your one deleted "Off Topic" post was hardly of any major Earth shattering importance to that thread or to the forum in general.
I'm certain that you'll agree.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HowardCohodas

When I was about to take my CCP training I had a conversation with an LEO who is an acquaintance of mine. I had just seen one of my favorite movies, "LA Confidential" and I remarked how the bad cop held up his LEO badge as other LEOs began to arrive. The idea of a badge for a CCP holder had never occurred to me. It was his suggestion a badge might be helpful in the aftermath of a SD shooting to cause even a momentary pause in LEO reaction while trying to sort out the good guys from the bad guys. Obviously the badge would remain concealed unless needed in this situation.

I ordered a badge. The company charged my credit card but never delivered. The credit card company returned my money but I never ordered another one from a different vendor. I am appalled at the virulent attacks on those who even suggest it might be an idea worth discussing. I'm not talking about the comments on this thread which I consider pretty mild. On the other hand, the moderator on this forum has sometimes deleted comments I have made for no reason I can discern. Go figure.

TN_Mike · July 14th, 2008, 03:32 AM

paramedic70002 · July 14th, 2008, 03:46 AM

Points to consider:

1. If you whip out some generic CCW badge at an LEO, he will know right away, because it doesn't look like the badges that he or other jurisdictions use.

2. Don't keep it rattling around with your change. Waving it around like a ninja throwing star is sure to get you laughed at.

3. Most LEOs that have their badges off duty, have them in a nice badge wallet (Police Badge Holder). Flip it open, badge on one side, ID on the other. Yes, real cops have IDs. Badge without ID = probably not a cop.

4. You could just as easily have a badge that says "EMERGENCY MEDICAL TECHNICIAN" or "FEMALE BODY INSPECTOR" or "SECURITY ENFORCEMENT OFFICER" (Galls® Security Enforcement Officer Badge - BC002 : Galls) which would alleviate that whole wanna-be-a-cop stereotype. As long as it isn't in somebody's face, nobody is going to be reading it anyway.

5. Usually on-duty undercover or plainclothes LEOs are the only ones wearing their badges on leather badge holders, either on their belt or a neck chain.

Safariland Undercover Neck Chain Badge Holder

6. If you are small town, no LEO is going to mistake you for a brother officer. Maybe a Fed, but not one of the hometown cops. BTW, Fed badges and ID are pretty standard.

7. Hint: If you have a badge, DO NOT have your home state's seal in the middle. Use another state. Get the goofy scales of justice, or the Fire Dept. bugles, but NOT YOUR HOME STATE! (Impersonating a city/state official...)

8. So do you get a badge style like your local LEO, Fed, or an oddball that nobody in your town wears? Up to you, but I would go with slightly foreign. Blackington (Blackinton Badge Company - Official Police Badges, Fire Badges, Military Badges and Security Badges) is the premiere badge maker, check them out, they have dozens of styles, many similar, several unique.
I think Galls sells them without any restriction (this changes about yearly).

Galls stock badges: Firefighter Badges - Volunteer Firefighter Badges - Fire Department Badges - Security Officer Badges - EMT Badges : Galls

Galls custom badges: : Galls

So, my recommendation is to have a badge that is similar in appearance, but not exactly like, one in use in your locale. Put it in a badge wallet. Put an ID in the ID window. I don't care if it's your Blockbuster ID, put something in there. Stick it in your pocket. NEVER take it out unless you are being approached by LEOs with guns drawn. Preferably already have it out. If not, take it out VERY SLOWLY while calmly and loudly saying, "I HAVE ID! I HAVE ID!"

goldshellback · July 14th, 2008, 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sig sauer

Are those badges for real (for CCW holders), or can anyone buy them?

Anyone can..........a pocket full of quarters at one of those "gumball" machines at the supermarket will get you one

retsupt99 · July 14th, 2008, 07:57 AM

We don't need no stinkin' badges...

save yer' $$$ and use it to buy extra mags.

July 14th, 2008, 01:50 AM	#51
Captain Crunch Senior Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Montana, The Treasure State Posts: 6,635	I'm surprised that nobody's mentioned that we've beat this poor old before. CHL Badges (It's a sticky at the top of this forum). __________________ *"Just be nice...or I'LL SHOOT"!* Terry

July 14th, 2008, 01:56 AM	#52
obxned Distinguished Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: OBX, NC Posts: 1,736	Some dead horses just need more beating. __________________ http://www.obxammo.com/ There is only one gun law in this country, the 2nd Amendment. All else is bureaucratic nonsense that I choose to comply with or not at my discretion. When governments make laws, they must consider the unintended consequences.

July 14th, 2008, 02:47 AM	#54
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July 14th, 2008, 03:32 AM	#57
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July 14th, 2008, 03:46 AM	#58
paramedic70002 Distinguished Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Franklin, VA Posts: 1,782	How to carry a badge (No, really) Points to consider: 1. If you whip out some generic CCW badge at an LEO, he will know right away, because it doesn't look like the badges that he or other jurisdictions use. 2. Don't keep it rattling around with your change. Waving it around like a ninja throwing star is sure to get you laughed at. 3. Most LEOs that have their badges off duty, have them in a nice badge wallet (Police Badge Holder). Flip it open, badge on one side, ID on the other. Yes, real cops have IDs. Badge without ID = probably not a cop. 4. You could just as easily have a badge that says "EMERGENCY MEDICAL TECHNICIAN" or "FEMALE BODY INSPECTOR" or "SECURITY ENFORCEMENT OFFICER" (Galls® Security Enforcement Officer Badge - BC002 : Galls) which would alleviate that whole wanna-be-a-cop stereotype. As long as it isn't in somebody's face, nobody is going to be reading it anyway. 5. Usually on-duty undercover or plainclothes LEOs are the only ones wearing their badges on leather badge holders, either on their belt or a neck chain. Safariland Undercover Neck Chain Badge Holder 6. If you are small town, no LEO is going to mistake you for a brother officer. Maybe a Fed, but not one of the hometown cops. BTW, Fed badges and ID are pretty standard. 7. Hint: If you have a badge, DO NOT have your home state's seal in the middle. Use another state. Get the goofy scales of justice, or the Fire Dept. bugles, but NOT YOUR HOME STATE! (Impersonating a city/state official...) 8. So do you get a badge style like your local LEO, Fed, or an oddball that nobody in your town wears? Up to you, but I would go with slightly foreign. Blackington (Blackinton Badge Company - Official Police Badges, Fire Badges, Military Badges and Security Badges) is the premiere badge maker, check them out, they have dozens of styles, many similar, several unique. I think Galls sells them without any restriction (this changes about yearly). Galls stock badges: Firefighter Badges - Volunteer Firefighter Badges - Fire Department Badges - Security Officer Badges - EMT Badges : Galls Galls custom badges: : Galls So, my recommendation is to have a badge that is similar in appearance, but not exactly like, one in use in your locale. Put it in a badge wallet. Put an ID in the ID window. I don't care if it's your Blockbuster ID, put something in there. Stick it in your pocket. NEVER take it out unless you are being approached by LEOs with guns drawn. Preferably already have it out. If not, take it out VERY SLOWLY while calmly and loudly saying, "I HAVE ID! I HAVE ID!" __________________ Guns Save Lives. Paramedics Save Lives. But... Paramedics With Guns Scare People!

July 14th, 2008, 07:57 AM	#60
retsupt99 VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 14,593	We don't need no stinkin' badges...save yer' $$$ and use it to buy extra mags. __________________ "That I cannot do." "Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks." *********************************** NRA Life Member

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