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Location: Franklin County Pennsylvania
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Idea for a national law
I had an idea.
It's a step down from a national CCL, and still allow states to issue their CCL's according to law. Instead of having a national CCL where you get a federal license where you can carry in all 50 states, they should pass a law that says if you have a CCL in one state you can carry in any state regardless of that states issue status. Basically saying if I live in PA and I have my CCL here, this federal law would allow me to carry in MD or NJ even though they do not issue permits to their residents. I'd like some thoughts on it. Drawbacks, good points?
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Violation of State soverignty, since it would require States to accept (potentially) lower requirements than the State has enacted for it's citizens.
Good try, though.Bear in mind, New York, Cali and DC would all be happy with such a reg, as long as it was the "highest common denominator"... ![]() |
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Logically it makes sense, if I have a driver's license from one state, it is good in the other 49. Although generally driving laws are a bit more uniform than carry laws.
The main issue with your idea is the sovereignty of the states themselves, and where the federal government is allow to supersede that sovereignty with their own laws. It's all Constitutional, however, the Bill or Rights also says I get to carry a firearm for my defense, and some states don't allow for that which is obviously flawed. I think really the 2nd just needs to be as universal as the 1st. Odd that the people who get so uptight upholding the 1st Amendment are the same ones usually trying to take away the 2nd.
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Location: Rowlett, Texas
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How about this.........if you DON"T want to carry........you must apply for a license stating you are NOT A CH person.
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Each of us has a natural right - from God - to defend his person, his liberty, and his property. These are the three basic requirements of life, and the preservation of any one of them is completely dependent upon the preservation of the other two. Frederic Bastiat, The Law |
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Hey, I resemble that remark!
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National Reciprocity has already been proposed. Essentially the proposed law said each state must recognize all state CCW licenses, but the local state's no-carry rules would apply.
Some make the argument that this is how things should already work through the Full Faith and Credit clause, which lets the feds set minimum standards for things like this. (Since there are no federal standards, all permits would be valid. If the feds set, say, a live fire training component as a standard, then states would not be required to honor permits issued by states with no live-fire test.) Check out this link: * http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/20...nelson_nat.php
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I like that!
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Trust me when I tell you Cali already is! Damn shame too...cant wait to get the hell outta here.
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I would prefer to see laws repealed rather than new ones added. In fact, the writers of the first amendment should have a period after the fifth word.
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