CowboyKen

Have you considered that the OP may have missunderstood, or been miss-informed, about what the "instructor" is doing? In many places intructors, that have been approved by Utah, offer classes that will qualify a student for a Utah non-resident permit. They frequently help the students complete the paperwork. They do not "hand out permits."

Ken

sgtD

I have both a FL and KS permit. It helps to have both, because a few of the southern states that I travel in recognize the FL, but not the KS permit and some western states only recognize resident permits, so my FL permit is no good there.

I wish national reciprocity would get strightened out somehow.

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ExSoldier

Sure, things like that happen frequently and he should check on that but as a former LEO myself, I also know that the art of the "con" is vast and pervasive so if it looks too good to be true, it probably IS. It never hurts to check, right?

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ExSoldier

I've never been anywhere in the South where my permit isn't any good. I may at some point ride a motorcycle out to Idaho in that once in a lifetime trip and before I do, I'll seriously get the latest update on the laws.

As far as national reciprocity, I used to think that would be the simplest and easiest method to get us where we need to go. That is until I started teaching AP American Government and really learning about the plans our friendly neighborhood politicians have in mind for the sheep.

Just remember this: Anything the federal government gives they can take away just as easily. However, interstate compacts or agreements between states must be dismantled one at a time at least theoretically under the 10th Amendment. Whether or not the 10th has been gutted is not as important as is the recent Heller decision. That gives us some breathing room to fight back. But I'd rather fight a national war state by state than a national war all at the same time, all the eggs in one basket, winner take all and H*** take the loser!

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Captain38

But possibly that will be corrected shortly when, and if ever, South Carolina publishes its updated reciprocity list!

ExSoldier

I haven't been to South Carolina. Every time I've been to North Carolina we got there via Georgia, so I wouldn't know. When we did go to North Carolina before there was reciprocity (years and YEARS ago) we were renting a cabin and I left the gun locked up unless we were in for the night. Then it was just as if we were at home.

In just a few years when I'm able to retire as my wife just has done, hopefully we'll move to North Carolina and build our dream home. Then I'll have to leave the paradise of the GUN-SHINE state and live under some harsher restrictions that I hope and pray the great state of NC addresses before I get there! Like I can't see going to the movies and having to leave my gun in the trunk. I figure the most dangerous spot is the parking lot to and from the movie! But NC says, no guns in the movie theaters which really stinks. I'm certain there are other rules, too. Maybe y'all folks from NC can elucidate?

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1dc

You can have another state permit and it will be good in some states were the TX CHL is not, but that won't help with your NE problem since their laws are antiquated for interstate commerce and travel. The problem is with the people of NE who let this be the way it is. Several other states are forward thinking enough to allow NE permits to be valid in their states even without reciprocity agreements.

I agree with the sentiment that this is not a federal problem. The problem is with NE residents and their elected officials.

TX Husker Fan

Oh trust me I know. I am from there origionaly and even thought it is still one of the most conservative states in the country, they all have a stupid attitude towards conceal carry. I know TX does honor NE's license but not vice versa. After living there for year I can tell you the state legislature has no backbone whatsover! Plus they let cities opt out of the conceal carry if they choose too and from what I understand 16 cities have done so. They just finally got a conceal carry permit to pass in 2006, they finally became the 48th out of 50 states that issue some sort of permit, however they certainly need to fine tune it, the NRA has already tried to get NE to address the cities opt out option which really is stupid, and to get them to get some form of reciprocity with other states. The governor of NE is very pro gun rights, but the legislature is so scared to do anything more. I personally know the state senator that drafted the bill up there, she is a family friend, but she decided one term was enough, she said she hated the job, can't say I blame her. But at the very least was glad to see NE get a conceal license, now they need to fine tune it and make it make sense.

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Captain38

Are you simply saying that those "forward thinking" states WILL honor Nebraska's CCW even though Nebraska won't honor theirs in return? If that's NOT what you mean, would you please explain?

TX Husker Fan

Pardon me "over hearing you" I am origionaly form NE and they do have a conceal license, but so far it is my understanding they do not have reciprocity with ANY state, even though several states will honor a NE permit, I know here in TX we will honor theirs, but they will not honor a TX license. Stupid! When I visit family there when I drive I can legally carry in OK and KS but as soon as I hit NE I cannot carry, I guess I am suppose to unload the gun and "lock" it up where I supposedly cannot readily have access to it. Of course their conceal law is less then two years old so hopefully they work on reciprocity with other states.

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