How not to conceal your weapon. - Page 4

762 · August 11th, 2008, 01:48 PM

??? didn't he take a class to get the CWP and he had no clue?

jahwarrior72 · August 11th, 2008, 01:53 PM

i believe that OC should be a legal option anywhere you have the right to carry, but the law is the law. he was warned once, the next time he should have been arrested, or at the very least, cited and fined.

tns0038 · August 11th, 2008, 02:21 PM

To quote Forest Gump " stupid is as stupid does".

My how times have changed.

I remember my daddy, always carrying his 44 special or in later years a 357 at 2 O'clock, and he covered it with a short Levi jacket. If he stood perfectly straight the OWB holster did not show, However, when he moved the jacket swaying on a windy day, or when he got in and out of a vehicle, you could easily see the pistol.

He as an P/T Deputy Sheriff and department rules back then was to ware your badge on your belt right next to the pistol, if you where in street clothing, but he never did. Instead it was in his wallet.

Long story short, no one ever called the police saying "man with a gun", but you would have to be blind not to notice it.

rdoggsilva · August 11th, 2008, 02:54 PM

Man was he lucky. I am wondering if he learned, or is he still trying to be a big man with a gun.

dnowell · August 11th, 2008, 03:44 PM

Seems to me that part of the problem is that you can't give a moderate penalty for this. The officer didn't want to get the guy in a huge amount of trouble for a relatively minor problem, but had no option to give him a smaller penalty. I'll bet the guy would've paid attention if he got a $200 ticket, and the officer could actually give it without causing the guy to lose his gun rights and such.

cvhoss · August 11th, 2008, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maximumrob

I guarantee you the fellow knew his gun was exposed. It probably had more to do with "look at me" instead of ignorance.

Bingo!!! I can't fathom than anyone could be so complacent with carrying that, having been dressed down by a police officer, they would accidentally allow the same thing to happen just two hours later. This guy is a full blown idiot who was trying to "show off" and should have his CCH license pulled. He is a walking negative billboard for the rest of us who try and do it right.

Hoss

LongRider · August 11th, 2008, 09:29 PM

This would explain the term stuck on stupid

mtnclimber · August 12th, 2008, 12:23 AM

I have a CCW permit and carry concealed so the BG doesn't have early warning. But, I have to ask ... If a law forbids open carry why don't the guys with lights on top of their cars get arrested first. The government is supposed to be "civil servants". When they get exempted from their own laws then they have become the masters which should be unconstitutional. The irony is that real crimminals often get off with a slap on the wrist while law-abiding citizens who inadvertently violate a law, with no harm to others, often get the book thrown at them. A law-abiding citizen rant.

Bark'n · August 12th, 2008, 12:34 AM

I think it was a conscious decision on his part to openly expose himself. So to speak.

I know of no one who carries a gun, after just being dressed down by a LEO for openly flashing their weapon would be caught doing the exact same thing, in the exact same manner just two hours later!

If it happened to me, it would have been an accident that I was flashing in the first place... And I would be spending the rest of the day, checking and rechecking and being extremely cautious, to ensure I wasn't exposing my weapon in the least little way.

Really, the officer should have arrested him on the second offense. Especially since it happened again in less than 2 hours.

That's just plain "Willful!" The guy has a serious lack of maturity!

August 11th, 2008, 01:48 PM	#31
762 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 722	??? didn't he take a class to get the CWP and he had no clue? __________________ Let's Roll - Todd Beamer MOΛΩN ΛABÉ

August 11th, 2008, 01:53 PM	#32
jahwarrior72 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: the raggedy edge Posts: 787	i believe that OC should be a legal option anywhere you have the right to carry, but the law is the law. he was warned once, the next time he should have been arrested, or at the very least, cited and fined. __________________ I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. (J.R.R.Tolkien, The Two Towers) http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=19644781

August 11th, 2008, 02:54 PM	#34
rdoggsilva Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Utah Posts: 591	Man was he lucky. I am wondering if he learned, or is he still trying to be a big man with a gun. __________________ John Steinbeck: Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he's too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

August 11th, 2008, 09:29 PM	#37
LongRider Distinguished Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Washington Posts: 1,363	This would explain the term stuck on stupid __________________ Those who would, deny, require permit, license, certification, or authorization for me to bear arms are as dangerous & evil as those who would molest, abuse, assault, rape or murder my family 250,000 dead from chemical warfare in mass graves is not evidence of WMD

August 12th, 2008, 12:34 AM	#39
Bark'n VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: West Central Missouri Posts: 2,619	I think it was a conscious decision on his part to openly expose himself. So to speak. I know of no one who carries a gun, after just being dressed down by a LEO for openly flashing their weapon would be caught doing the exact same thing, in the exact same manner just two hours later! If it happened to me, it would have been an accident that I was flashing in the first place... And I would be spending the rest of the day, checking and rechecking and being extremely cautious, to ensure I wasn't exposing my weapon in the least little way. Really, the officer should have arrested him on the second offense. Especially since it happened again in less than 2 hours. That's just plain "Willful!" The guy has a serious lack of maturity! __________________ -Bark'n Semper Fi "The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, will prey on those of us who without one, would surely perish."

August 11th, 2008, 02:21 PM	#33
tns0038 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 1,175	To quote Forest Gump " stupid is as stupid does". My how times have changed. I remember my daddy, always carrying his 44 special or in later years a 357 at 2 O'clock, and he covered it with a short Levi jacket. If he stood perfectly straight the OWB holster did not show, However, when he moved the jacket swaying on a windy day, or when he got in and out of a vehicle, you could easily see the pistol. He as an P/T Deputy Sheriff and department rules back then was to ware your badge on your belt right next to the pistol, if you where in street clothing, but he never did. Instead it was in his wallet. Long story short, no one ever called the police saying "man with a gun", but you would have to be blind not to notice it.

August 11th, 2008, 03:44 PM	#35
dnowell Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: USA Posts: 200	Seems to me that part of the problem is that you can't give a moderate penalty for this. The officer didn't want to get the guy in a huge amount of trouble for a relatively minor problem, but had no option to give him a smaller penalty. I'll bet the guy would've paid attention if he got a $200 ticket, and the officer could actually give it without causing the guy to lose his gun rights and such.

August 12th, 2008, 12:23 AM	#38
mtnclimber Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 31	I have a CCW permit and carry concealed so the BG doesn't have early warning. But, I have to ask ... If a law forbids open carry why don't the guys with lights on top of their cars get arrested first. The government is supposed to be "civil servants". When they get exempted from their own laws then they have become the masters which should be unconstitutional. The irony is that real crimminals often get off with a slap on the wrist while law-abiding citizens who inadvertently violate a law, with no harm to others, often get the book thrown at them. A law-abiding citizen rant.

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