Chillicothe OH

WickedOne · August 27th, 2008, 09:12 AM

Anybody know if CC is OK at the Easyriders Rodeo in Chillicothe OH. I plan to go Saturday morning and leave out Saturday evening. I do know they serve beer at some stands, but not sure how that works in OH since it's a wide open field.

SOLOLUCKY · August 27th, 2008, 09:37 AM

The law in Ohio includes, as a no-carry zone, "open air arenas where alcohol is served"..so I'd say don't bother, it's not legal...& being a biker event, one i would like to attend just have not had the opportunity, there is a good chance they have the area posted anyway due to the numbers of biker gangs that attend.

ken45 · August 27th, 2008, 01:29 PM

Beer is NOT alcohol in Ohio. The "open area arena" part of the law is refering to sports stadiums, not events like this. Typically if an alcohol permit is issued, it is for a restricted area, not the entire festival.

IANAL but you are probably okay from the beer standpoint (carry into a licensed liquor establishment is a felony). If the grounds are posted (private property), then it's a misdemeanor trespassing charge. I have no idea if the grounds are posted. If it is on government owned property (e.g. park, fairgrounds), then it cannot be posted.

Ken

JimmyC4 · August 27th, 2008, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ken45

Beer is NOT alcohol in Ohio. The "open area arena" part of the law is refering to sports stadiums, not events like this. Typically if an alcohol permit is issued, it is for a restricted area, not the entire festival.

IANAL but you are probably okay from the beer standpoint (carry into a licensed liquor establishment is a felony). If the grounds are posted (private property), then it's a misdemeanor trespassing charge. I have no idea if the grounds are posted. If it is on government owned property (e.g. park, fairgrounds), then it cannot be posted.

Ken

I'd likely not risk a felony on advice that "... you are probably okay...." Unless, of course, your pockets are deep and you've always wanted to be a test case.

WickedOne · August 27th, 2008, 02:32 PM

Thanks for the info, I would rather not risk a felony charge and loose the right to carry altogether. Guess I'll just pack some OC spray or something.

ken45 · August 27th, 2008, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyC4

I'd likely not risk a felony on advice that "... you are probably okay...." Unless, of course, your pockets are deep and you've always wanted to be a test case.

Well here is the Ohio law:

Quote:

4301.01(A) As used in the Revised Code:

(1) "Intoxicating liquor" and "liquor" include all liquids and compounds, other than beer, containing one-half of one per cent or more of alcohol by volume which are fit to use for beverage purposes, from whatever source and by whatever process produced, by whatever name called, and whether they are medicated, proprietary, or patented. "Intoxicating liquor" and "liquor" include wine even if it contains less than four per cent of alcohol by volume, mixed beverages even if they contain less than four per cent of alcohol by volume, cider, alcohol, and all solids and confections which contain any alcohol.

Note also that the law only prohibits carry in establishments with a D2 license. Typically festivals, temporary events, etc. have a type F license.

Of course, just because you have the law on your side does not mean that the locals will understand it. Effectively keeping the firearm concealed will help avoid any questions.

Unfortunately, everything firearm related in this state comes down to "probably". People have been arrested for perfectly legal activities. Not all police are properly trained.

Ken

subierex · August 28th, 2008, 02:27 PM

Strange that they would not include beer. What's the difference?

I'm an Ohio resident that learned something new today.

Foo909 · August 28th, 2008, 03:27 PM

All though I can't help you out on your question I very heavily doubt you will be only one carrying up there, I have a friend from work attending it as well.

SOLOLUCKY · August 28th, 2008, 03:49 PM

HUH...I too learned something new. Beer is not an intoxicating beverage....WOW...tell my ex-wife that! lol

rtroha · August 28th, 2008, 06:01 PM

If you ask this on the Ohioans for Concealed Carry forums, you might find others are planning on attending or they might give you more guidance about the law.

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August 27th, 2008, 09:12 AM	#1
WickedOne New Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: KY Posts: 6	Chillicothe OH Anybody know if CC is OK at the Easyriders Rodeo in Chillicothe OH. I plan to go Saturday morning and leave out Saturday evening. I do know they serve beer at some stands, but not sure how that works in OH since it's a wide open field.

August 27th, 2008, 09:37 AM	#2
SOLOLUCKY Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ROSS OHIO Posts: 501	The law in Ohio includes, as a no-carry zone, "open air arenas where alcohol is served"..so I'd say don't bother, it's not legal...& being a biker event, one i would like to attend just have not had the opportunity, there is a good chance they have the area posted anyway due to the numbers of biker gangs that attend. __________________ R1 This is mine. That is yours. Lets keep it that way.

August 27th, 2008, 02:32 PM	#5
WickedOne New Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: KY Posts: 6	Thanks Thanks for the info, I would rather not risk a felony charge and loose the right to carry altogether. Guess I'll just pack some OC spray or something.

August 28th, 2008, 02:27 PM	#7
subierex Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 20	Strange that they would not include beer. What's the difference? I'm an Ohio resident that learned something new today. __________________ A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. -Thomas Jefferson Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavours to live at the expense of everybody else. -Frederic Bastiat

August 28th, 2008, 03:49 PM	#9
SOLOLUCKY Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ROSS OHIO Posts: 501	HUH...I too learned something new. Beer is not an intoxicating beverage....WOW...tell my ex-wife that! lol __________________ R1 This is mine. That is yours. Lets keep it that way.

August 27th, 2008, 01:29 PM	#3
ken45 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 51	Beer is NOT alcohol in Ohio. The "open area arena" part of the law is refering to sports stadiums, not events like this. Typically if an alcohol permit is issued, it is for a restricted area, not the entire festival. IANAL but you are probably okay from the beer standpoint (carry into a licensed liquor establishment is a felony). If the grounds are posted (private property), then it's a misdemeanor trespassing charge. I have no idea if the grounds are posted. If it is on government owned property (e.g. park, fairgrounds), then it cannot be posted. Ken

August 28th, 2008, 03:27 PM	#8
Foo909 Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ashland,KY Posts: 35	All though I can't help you out on your question I very heavily doubt you will be only one carrying up there, I have a friend from work attending it as well.

August 28th, 2008, 06:01 PM	#10
rtroha Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Northeast Ohio Posts: 53	If you ask this on the Ohioans for Concealed Carry forums, you might find others are planning on attending or they might give you more guidance about the law. Ohioans For Concealed Carry Discussion Forums • Index page

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