1st experience with state trooper while carrying - Page 5

kimberland · September 9th, 2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hivoltage

Does this count if you have a CCW license but do not have a weapon on you? Just curious as to what your take on this is.

Informing a law enforcement officer that you have a license but are not armed is analogous to telling a park ranger that you hve a fishing license when you are not fishing.

elgriton · September 11th, 2008, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dzrtbronco

I have had my chl for over a year now and finally had my first run in with a texas state trooper. The wife and I were on our way to california to visit family for vacation. We were in the middle of nowhere in west texas and it was 2am. The speed limit is 65 at night and I had the cruise set at about 70~72. I saw the cruiser going the opposite direction and when we passed him I saw him cut across the divider and turn around, he caught up quickly and pulled in behind me and then hit the lights. When he came to the passenger window I already had my license and chl in hand and my wife had the insurance form. I informed him that I was carrying and he looked over our paperwork. He looked more concerned about our 90lb german shepherd in the back seat than me carrying and asked me to step out of the vehicle away from the dog to give me a warning. He had me stand back by his cruiser while he filled out the warning, and then handed it to me and said have a nice night and drive safe. He was very courteous and professional, and only asked the location of my gun while we were walking back to his cruiser. I told him it was on my right hip and that was it. So I got a warning and kept it at 65 until dawn. For getting pulled over it was a good experience.
dzrtbronco

I have a radar detector in my truck and my wife's car. I can't tell you how many times that thing has saved my bacon.

athos76 · September 11th, 2008, 03:01 AM

Last time I drove thru W Texas was in a Greyhound Bus. We got pulled over at 4am and they made everyone get off the bus that didn't have ID. I showed my military ID and they let me stay on board. Turned into a 2 hr ordeal. But I never complained since I knew of some of the people that ride Greyhounds are dirtbags.
They searched some bags and ticketed the driver for speeding. All in all, a slight delay.

The time before that, we were on family vacation going down I-10 or 20 (can't remember) and the posted speed limit was 65. My dad was driving at the tail end of a long line of cars, and we got pulled over. LEO saw our dog, and said roll up the windows and turn the car off... my dad refused since the temp would skyrocket, so the LEO asked me to sit in the drivers seat (I was 10). He told my dad he clocked him at 85 mph. My dad asked how fast the car 3 lengths in front was going and the Officer said 60. My dad got out of the ticket by proving the officer wrong and he drove out of Texas with a huge smile on his face.

If I'm speeding and get caught... I may try to talk my way out of it, but if I get a ticket, I don't have a problem. LEOs have a job to do, just like most of us.

dmorris68 · September 11th, 2008, 09:05 AM

Nothing wrong with attempting to talk your way out of a ticket, as long as you're respectful and contrite -- most cops are reasonable and if you weren't being entirely stupid (like I was in the incident I relayed earlier in this topic) they will often give you a break. However arguing with them by the side of the road is almost never productive, I'd suggest saving it for court if you want to argue your case.

In almost 30 years of driving I've been pulled over maybe 8 times for speeding, most of which was in my youth (only twice in the last 15 years). Only 3 resulted in tickets. I'm very contrite and respectful, and having a veteran's DL and plates probably helps -- the last time I was pulled over was by a fellow Desert Storm vet. Turns out we were in some places at the same time, might have even run into each other over there. We swapped war stories for a few minutes and then he sent me on my way with a verbal warning.

Conan · September 11th, 2008, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kimberland

Informing a law enforcement officer that you have a license but are not armed is analogous to telling a park ranger that you hve a fishing license when you are not fishing.

In N.C. we are taught to tell the officer even if you are UNARMED, you see he already knows that you have the permit when he enters the plate number into the computer it is tied to your vehicle registration. And failure to disclose could cost you your permit!

Zach and Holly · September 11th, 2008, 05:19 PM

Glad everything worked out!

ZO6Vettever · September 12th, 2008, 10:04 AM

He probably thought you were up to something only going 72! LOL

Deputydog · September 12th, 2008, 11:39 PM

It's always a good idea to let LEO's know you have a CCP and are carrying when we approach during a stop. Here in Virginia we will know you're CCP when we run your license. I'd much rather you let me know up front so there are no surprises for either of us. To me this appears to be a good stop and for proper reason. If you don't want stopped keep the speed down near posted. You could be anything from AOK to a fleeing muderer and there are more of the latter out there these days. We need to know, especially if you are carrying or have it at hand. Don't ever have one in the console or glove box and reach for your registration there without letting us know before hand. It could get real hairy quickly.
Be safe and help keep us safe.

Deputydog · September 12th, 2008, 11:59 PM

It's always a good idea to let LEO's know you have a CCP and are carrying when we approach during a stop. Here in Virginia we will know you're CCP when we run your license. I'd much rather you let me know up front so there are no surprises for either of us. To me this appears to be a good stop and for proper reason. If you don't want stopped keep the speed down near posted. You could be anything from AOK to a fleeing muderer and there are more of the latter out there these days. We need to know, especially if you are carrying or have it at hand. Don't ever have one in the console or glove box and reach for your registration there without letting us know before hand. It could get real hairy quickly.
Be safe and help keep us safe.

September 11th, 2008, 09:05 AM	#44
dmorris68 Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: NW Georgia Posts: 313	Nothing wrong with attempting to talk your way out of a ticket, as long as you're respectful and contrite -- most cops are reasonable and if you weren't being entirely stupid (like I was in the incident I relayed earlier in this topic) they will often give you a break. However arguing with them by the side of the road is almost never productive, I'd suggest saving it for court if you want to argue your case. In almost 30 years of driving I've been pulled over maybe 8 times for speeding, most of which was in my youth (only twice in the last 15 years). Only 3 resulted in tickets. I'm very contrite and respectful, and having a veteran's DL and plates probably helps -- the last time I was pulled over was by a fellow Desert Storm vet. Turns out we were in some places at the same time, might have even run into each other over there. We swapped war stories for a few minutes and then he sent me on my way with a verbal warning. __________________ David Kimber Pro CDP II • Colt Combat Commander • Glock 26 GNS • Ruger Mark III 22/45 • Kahr CW9 (sold)

September 11th, 2008, 05:19 PM	#46
Zach and Holly Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 227	Glad everything worked out! __________________ Isn't carrying a gun a little overkill? Paranoid? When you need it, and don't have it, you sing a different tune.

September 12th, 2008, 11:39 PM	#48
Deputydog New Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Southwest Virginia Posts: 4	It's always a good idea to let LEO's know you have a CCP and are carrying when we approach during a stop. Here in Virginia we will know you're CCP when we run your license. I'd much rather you let me know up front so there are no surprises for either of us. To me this appears to be a good stop and for proper reason. If you don't want stopped keep the speed down near posted. You could be anything from AOK to a fleeing muderer and there are more of the latter out there these days. We need to know, especially if you are carrying or have it at hand. Don't ever have one in the console or glove box and reach for your registration there without letting us know before hand. It could get real hairy quickly. Be safe and help keep us safe. Last edited by Deputydog; September 12th, 2008 at 11:57 PM. Reason: Additional comment

September 12th, 2008, 11:59 PM	#49
Deputydog New Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Southwest Virginia Posts: 4	It's always a good idea to let LEO's know you have a CCP and are carrying when we approach during a stop. Here in Virginia we will know you're CCP when we run your license. I'd much rather you let me know up front so there are no surprises for either of us. To me this appears to be a good stop and for proper reason. If you don't want stopped keep the speed down near posted. You could be anything from AOK to a fleeing muderer and there are more of the latter out there these days. We need to know, especially if you are carrying or have it at hand. Don't ever have one in the console or glove box and reach for your registration there without letting us know before hand. It could get real hairy quickly. Be safe and help keep us safe. Last edited by Deputydog; September 13th, 2008 at 12:00 AM. Reason: Additional comments

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September 11th, 2008, 03:01 AM	#43
athos76 Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Miramar, FL Posts: 122	Last time I drove thru W Texas was in a Greyhound Bus. We got pulled over at 4am and they made everyone get off the bus that didn't have ID. I showed my military ID and they let me stay on board. Turned into a 2 hr ordeal. But I never complained since I knew of some of the people that ride Greyhounds are dirtbags. They searched some bags and ticketed the driver for speeding. All in all, a slight delay. The time before that, we were on family vacation going down I-10 or 20 (can't remember) and the posted speed limit was 65. My dad was driving at the tail end of a long line of cars, and we got pulled over. LEO saw our dog, and said roll up the windows and turn the car off... my dad refused since the temp would skyrocket, so the LEO asked me to sit in the drivers seat (I was 10). He told my dad he clocked him at 85 mph. My dad asked how fast the car 3 lengths in front was going and the Officer said 60. My dad got out of the ticket by proving the officer wrong and he drove out of Texas with a huge smile on his face. If I'm speeding and get caught... I may try to talk my way out of it, but if I get a ticket, I don't have a problem. LEOs have a job to do, just like most of us.

September 12th, 2008, 10:04 AM	#47
ZO6Vettever New Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Key West, Fl. Posts: 14	He probably thought you were up to something only going 72! LOL