farronwolf

I agree that these people should have taken their business elsewhere when they saw the sign. To go in and waste peoples time or go through the whole process of a sale only to tell them at the last minute that you change your mind is just simply childish, stupid and lowers peoples view of you all around.

If you don't have anything better to do than getting your kicks from wasting business peoples time, then you should either get a life or take up some hobbies. Does anyone agree that it is ok to go into a grocery store and fill up a buggie with groceries just to leave it in the middle of an isle and walk out, never intending to make a purchase, but simply to give the people working something else to do. That is something that junior high kids would think was fun.

I have had people bring in tax or bookwork to my office and after I get done they don't like the results or they have heard from a friend that someplace else got them extra money or whatever, and then they want their stuff back to take someplace else. I gladly give them their stuff and tell them good luck, after they have wasted my time. If and when they ever come back, and some have, I just charge them about double what I would normally. I figure the grass wasn't greener on the other side of the fence the first time. But these people didn't bring their stuff in initially with the intention of wasting my time. At least I hope they didn't.

In my book, it boils down to respect. If you don't have enough respect for yourself or someone else, than to purposely waste someone's time, well then your not much better than some of the other folks that don't mind stealing material things.

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boscobeans

Two scenarios"

1. After seeing the NO GUN sign, I would ask for the manager. " Sir my wife and I are in need of new eyeglasses but since this store/chain has a NO GUN policy I have no other option but to shop somewhere else. " Manager knows that 2 pair maybe 4 with sunglasses is a decent sale and would have a nice plus to his stores daily sales. So he reports it to management. "like a district manager, who will or will not do anything about it."

2. I get to the point where the total price knocks my socks off. "Wow that's a little more than I was prepared to spend right now. I'll think about it and may be back later. Thanks for your help."

Maybe I am too sensitive since I was in that type of situation for 40 years but I
have decided to leave my middle finger home when I put my gun in my holster.

Bosco

David in FL

I tend to agree. It just doesn't sound to me as if the couple in question went into the store with the express intention of wasting anyone's time just to make a point.

One other observation....... As a long time retail executive, I'll offer that successful commissioned sales people will always be in extremely high demand. Can you imagine the impression she would make if she were to walk in to her boss and tell him that she was leaving and taking her talents elsewhere because the company's discriminatory policy was impacting her ability to earn a living? Now that might get someone's attention. Ultimately, she'd be benefiting herself too. Sales is tough. It's tougher when you intentionally reduce your potential customer base.

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jlangton

I don't see the logic used here in some of the comments....
A person chooses a sales job that's commission only.
This salesperson spends time doing job for potential sale.
This salesperson loses sale.
Now,in 99% of the cases where this happened,the salesperson would have just moved onto the next person and thought nothing of it,and wouldn't be mad about anything. How is losing the sale because the person that was shopping decided that they really didn't want to do business with this particular establishment any different than somebody that just decided it was more costly than they had planned? It's still a lost sale,and at the end of the day,is no different.
JL

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FlyboyLDB

Sounds like they were "attempting" to make large purchase to show the store and your daughter how much they are losing with the anti 2nd ammend sign. Had there been no sign, these people most likely would not have even entered the store. Why would I enter a store, take the time to look through many sets of glasses, knowing I am against their anti gun policy - and then "decide" it is not for me. They were attempting to make a point and wasting your daughter's time.

Swamp Fox

The bottom line is the sign was at the entrance. That kind of blows a great big hole in the argument for a slap on the back for the good ole defender of 2a.

The breaking point between the two sides in this arguement is at the brink of civility and respect vs just plain brash behavior. And the arguements defending Mr. & Mrs. X are worthy of grammer school politics at best.

rodc13

I really can't say I disagree with this as a tactic. Not always, but in the right circumstances, as Kerbouchard says.

It would be even more effective if a number of people did it. It does drive home the point that it's real business they are losing. The bottom line is the best way to make an impact with a business. If you're the business owner, and you're on the receiving end, you wouldn't like it.

That, of course, is the whole idea. The business also wouldn't much care for you walking back and forth with a sign urging customers to boycott the store, either. That's also a legitimate expression of dissatisfaction.

It doesn't sound to me like the couple was necessarily rude to the OP's daughter. We also don't know if that was their intention from the outset. They may have just stewed about it for a while, then decided they could not, in good conscience, do business there. I've certainly done that, when I've decided I just don't like the people trying to sell me something.

In Texas, I don't even consider a business anti-gun unless they have a legal sign. They just have no bearing on anything. I figure that if the people were anti-concealed carry, they'd go to the trouble to put up the right sign. It's easy to do. And besides, as we say, concealed is concealed.

If they do have the legal exclusionary sign, showing a true intent, I will never do business with them, and would not be averse to employing any legitimate and effective tactic to help them see the error of their ways. After all, it's not to their, or my detriment if they come around.

To the OP: If the management sees they're losing business by their anti-gun stance, and changes their policy, it might even save your daughter's life one of these days.

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mcp1810

I see two possibilities here. Either the X's vision is so impaired they didn't see the sign until they got to the register, or they are suffering from severe rectal cranial inversion. All they have done is punish someone that has no control over the policy they object to.

Reality check time folks. The loss of that $800 sale is insignificant to the people they are trying to make their point to. If this company has only ten stores, and each store makes only three sales like this a day, and they are open six days per week....... They lost less than one one hundredth of one percent of their sales. That means for each hundred dollars of sales they have, they just lost almost a penny.

I am sure the stock holders will be up in arms over this.

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rodc13

Ah, glasshoppa, from single snowflake starts the avalanche . . .

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Thanis

What do you all think of the actions of Mr. & Mrs X?
---Their call
Did they do a good job of defending 2nd Amendment rights?
---Not really. They just used the 1st
Would you do the same as they did?
---NO! Send a letter / shop somewhere else

IMO, both parties did not do well. Your daughter should be more aware of the issues (esp with sign on door). Then again, she is just trying to make it in the world. Sounds like she keep her cool & did her best.

The gun rights people were (in theory) right, but acted a bit in the wrong (they are trying to punish a business but they are just punishing a hard working mother). Your daughter was slightly in the wrong (not being informed), but acted right.

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+0.5 They made their point. Sometimes the point is not to make friends. But I get your point.

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