Virginia Removes SC From List of States It Honors.

Gary Slider · September 5th, 2008, 09:31 PM

The Virginia State Police have done it again. They have removed SC from the list of states they said they would honor. I have an email into them but am not hopeful for a quick reply. SC was listed as a state VA would honor without SC honoring theirs.

Kentucky is now listing SC as a state they have reciprocity with. This is a new listing but South Carolina has not posted a new list as of this evening. KY honors all other state permits. They just added they have an agreement signed.

I have heard through the grapevine that VA was one state that SC would be adding to their new List. I am hoping they removed SC from the list of states they would honor and made an error in not adding it to the list of states they have agreements with. Time will tell but I just wanted to warn all those residents of SC that VA is not listing your state as one they will honor at this time. Lets hope it changes very quickly. I don't like this moving backwards.

f8lranger4x4 · September 5th, 2008, 10:18 PM

that sucks

archer51 · September 5th, 2008, 11:00 PM

As far as I'm concerned, until SC honors VA CHP, VA shouldn't honor SC permit.

Pro2A · September 5th, 2008, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Slider

The Virginia State Police have done it again. They have removed SC from the list of states they said they would honor. I have an email into them but am not hopeful for a quick reply. SC was listed as a state VA would honor without SC honoring theirs.

Kentucky is now listing SC as a state they have reciprocity with. This is a new listing but South Carolina has not posted a new list as of this evening. KY honors all other state permits. They just added they have an agreement signed.

I have heard through the grapevine that VA was one state that SC would be adding to their new List. I am hoping they removed SC from the list of states they would honor and made an error in not adding it to the list of states they have agreements with. Time will tell but I just wanted to warn all those residents of SC that VA is not listing your state as one they will honor at this time. Lets hope it changes very quickly. I don't like this moving backwards.

It's probably the same mix up as before with Tennessee.

Tom357 · September 5th, 2008, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Slider

...Time will tell but I just wanted to warn all those residents of SC that VA is not listing your state as one they will honor at this time. Lets hope it changes very quickly. I don't like this moving backwards.

Moving backwards? VA honored SC's permits for YEARS without being extended the same courtesy. It isn't moving backwards for me - I'm as unwelcome in SC, today, as I was, yesterday. If it is moving backwards for SC, then SC has no one but itself to blame.

If instead reciprocity has been worked out, then I'm sure the lists will be corrected, and that will be great.

dmorris68 · September 6th, 2008, 12:09 AM

SC is the only SE state that doesn't have reciprocity with GA, so that has been a pain when I have to travel there. I've still carried in the car and kept it in the hotel room with me, but don't carry on my person.

Why are they so difficult with some states? No reciprocity for neighboring GA, AL, FL, and MS, but yet have reciprocity with the rest of the south and midwest.

f8lranger4x4 · September 6th, 2008, 05:51 AM

This may be a way that Virginia is getting their foot in the door in South Carolina. useing it as leverage

retsupt99 · September 6th, 2008, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by f8lranger4x4

that sucks

Tell me about it...a Floridian here, waiting for reciprocity...then I'll spend my $$$ in SC.

Stay armed...don't take your wallet to SC, yet...stay safe!

Scott · September 6th, 2008, 08:15 AM

According to the info Phil V. received from the VSP it is because VA discovered that SC really doesn't have 27/7 verification for permit status. Relevant part of Phil's email below...

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Tom Lambert, with the Virginia State Police, just sent me an update on Virginia's reciprocity status with several other states. I want to thank Tom for his professionalism and his diligent work to setup reciprocity with as many states as possible. The rant that follows has nothing to do with Tom - I want to make that perfectly clear.

As I looked at Tom's latest update, one glaring problem jumps out at me: the Virginia State Police's demand that all reciprocal states have a system in place to verify the validity of their permits 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, is crushing a lot of reciprocal agreements!

The net effect is that YOU are left defenseless in many states as you travel solely because if this unnecessary requirement by YOUR state police. And many guests to this state are similarly and unnecessarily disarmed.

That is unacceptable and we need to do whatever we can to get that 24/7 requirement struck out of Virginia law.

Let me show you just how inane and how serious a problem this is.

***Virginia has JUST stopped recognizing South Carolina concealed handgun permits. ***

Why?

Because apparently South Carolina does not have the 24/7 validation capability. For years now Virginia thought they did and has been recognizing their permits! Virginia just now discovered the problem while reviewing information with South Carolina!

Delucas · September 6th, 2008, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dmorris68

Why are they so difficult with some states? No reciprocity for neighboring GA, AL, FL, and MS, but yet have reciprocity with the rest of the south and midwest.

Believe me, it's not because the CWP holders don't want reciprocity. I have to get a non res from NH to be able to carry in Georgia, Miss, Ala.

September 5th, 2008, 09:31 PM	#1
Gary Slider Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 166	Virginia Removes SC From List of States It Honors. The Virginia State Police have done it again. They have removed SC from the list of states they said they would honor. I have an email into them but am not hopeful for a quick reply. SC was listed as a state VA would honor without SC honoring theirs. Kentucky is now listing SC as a state they have reciprocity with. This is a new listing but South Carolina has not posted a new list as of this evening. KY honors all other state permits. They just added they have an agreement signed. I have heard through the grapevine that VA was one state that SC would be adding to their new List. I am hoping they removed SC from the list of states they would honor and made an error in not adding it to the list of states they have agreements with. Time will tell but I just wanted to warn all those residents of SC that VA is not listing your state as one they will honor at this time. Lets hope it changes very quickly. I don't like this moving backwards. __________________ Stay Safe, Gary Slider Handgunlaw.us

September 5th, 2008, 11:00 PM	#3
archer51 VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: VA Posts: 2,404	As far as I'm concerned, until SC honors VA CHP, VA shouldn't honor SC permit. __________________ Better to die with a weapon in hand, than to live with the boot of oppression on your throat.-Unknown

September 6th, 2008, 12:09 AM	#6
dmorris68 Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: NW Georgia Posts: 313	SC is the only SE state that doesn't have reciprocity with GA, so that has been a pain when I have to travel there. I've still carried in the car and kept it in the hotel room with me, but don't carry on my person. Why are they so difficult with some states? No reciprocity for neighboring GA, AL, FL, and MS, but yet have reciprocity with the rest of the south and midwest. __________________ David Kimber Pro CDP II • Colt Combat Commander • Glock 26 GNS • Ruger Mark III 22/45 • Kahr CW9 (sold)

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September 5th, 2008, 10:18 PM	#2
f8lranger4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: virginia Posts: 761	that sucks

September 6th, 2008, 05:51 AM	#7
f8lranger4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: virginia Posts: 761	This may be a way that Virginia is getting their foot in the door in South Carolina. useing it as leverage