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You gain strength, courage, and confidence by every experience in which you really stop to look fear in the face. You are able to say to yourself, "I have lived through this horror. I can take the next thing that comes along." . . . You must do the thing you think you cannot do. Eleanor Roosevelt |
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Good luck, and hope you are successful.... before someone ends up shot.
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I've got a buddy who is happily a "Range Nazi". The last time I went with him some kids were playing with their AK (nothing against AK's... that just happens to be what they had - heck we had a couple with us that day)... and they kept either pointing it at us or laying it on the table pointed at us. When we yelled at them they replied, "It's not loaded."
My buddy replied, "I don't know you - don't do it again." The next time they did it, they had a rifle pointed back at them. They decided it was time to leave at that point. Continuously pointing a weapon at some one can be seen as a threat - and sometimes should be treated as such... of course that may be a bit extreme with your son... but maybe he'll get the point?
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But I understand. Seriously, I understand. Did I say I understood. I might want to do it, but I would not. Boy do I understand. |
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Over the past 50 or so years that I have been around guns I have witnessed no less than 5 unintentional discharges. Fortunately all were harmless, all but one were in the hands of people that knew enough to keep them from pointing at anything they cared for.
The other one was my girlfriend that I had trained to shoot and took hunting. She nearly killed me! I had been after her while hunting (her first trip) to watch the muzzle of the 12ga loaded with #1 buck! Several times I found myself looking down that barrel, now I thought I had taught her better than that and I did. I had just came out of some thick cover (old Christmas tree planting’s) she was at the head of a row I was still hunting in she had the gun in her right arm lying cradled with the muzzle pointed straight at my mid section. I saw this and with a hand motion told her to move it away from me. She turned to the side with her head looking to the sky in defiance / discuss over me telling her yet again to watch that muzzle! Then as the muzzle came to a 90% between us it went off! The recoil sent the gun out of her arms ( she wasn’t holding on to it just laying in her arms) a few feet to her side and ripped a nice hole in the moss covered ground 10-15 or so feet away from her, 2-3 inches wide and a foot and half to say two feet long. She started to cry uncontrollably for a bit almost as if she had shot me, while this blubbering was going on she noticed that I wasn’t mad over nearly being killed. In fact I was happy and told her so, she was a bit puzzled at first but I explained that now she knows that it can happen, even to her. Needless to say I never had to mention muzzle direction to her again. By the way that sort of crap your kid is doing is for Hollywood! You know the place where they really know about guns and the real life of gun handling. Like shooting two guns at the same time in the old west. The real reason was so they didn’t have to reload as often. |
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Yeah, I don't know that it was the best thing to do... but I'm pretty sure they learned their lesson that day. I pulled my buddy off the range for a bit after that... Man was he steamed. That's fine with me... gave me some time with his M1A while he cooled off.
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A couple of years ago while I was taking my CCW course, my instructor and his helper used a real weapon during a class demonstration. Both the instructor and his helper visually checked the weapon before the demonstration. After checking the weapon they demonstrated how easily someone could take the handgun away from you, so the lesson was to maintain a good distance. The helper took the gun away from the instructor, pointed the gun at him and pulled the trigger. I couldn't believe what I'd just seen. I thought "this is unbelieveable" I did not say anything to him but I do regret it. I've been around firearms my entire life, but there were several in the class that had never even fired a weapon at all. I wondered what kind of impresson this event left on them. .I wonder if it took away from the seriousness of firearms for them. My dad taught me never ever point a firearm at anything that I do not intend to destroy. After the trigger is pulled, there's no getting that bullet to stop. It's a done deal. You need to have a heart to heart with your son or anyone else that carelessly points a gun at anyone anytime.
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This case involves the possible loss of life during any one of these "encounters" with the son. If one of my sons did this, there would be only one occurence. We would sit down and I would let him know how serious I was about him eliminating this dangerous behavior - or else. That's it, regardless of age. If above the age of majority, he would have to find somewhere else to live if he would not heed my advise . Bravado and flamboyant behaviour has led to the untimely deaths of many - not only handling guns, but in any potentially dangerous activity. If he doesn't love you enough to respect your wishes - and be willing to realize this is dangerous, then in my estimation, he has forfeitted his right to your hospatality. I love all my sons, and would gladly give my life fo rany one of them, but I don't intend to die at the hands of one of them for doing something this irresponsible. Hope this helps, Jim
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Another true story. I have mentioned this elsewhere but I don't think I have in this forum yet.
Before retiring I was an international business man. One year I had a Japanese associate spend 6 months in the U.S. and I was responsible for his training etc and of course I spent a lot of time socially with him. Japan has very strict gun laws and the average Japanese has probably never seen a hand gun except in the holster of a LEO. Naturally, this makes them fascinated by them. Komatsu was at my home one evening and asked me if I had a hand gun and then asked if he could see it. I went to the bedroom and got my Security 6 .357. I emptied the cylinder and took it to the living room and showed it to him. He asked if he could hold it. I flipped open the cylinder to show him how to tell it was empty, (that was my second check.) and handed him the gun. He hefted it etc. then asked if he could pull the trigger. I made him hand it back, checked the cylinder for the third time and finally let him dry fire it. When he returned to Japan, I was on the same flight with him out of Chicago. We had just crossed the Canadian border, which the Captain announced, when Komatsu grabbed me and said "I have to tell you something." Jeff made me promise not to tell anyone in America. (We had barely left America and he couldn't resist telling me.) He said; "do you remember when I asked to see your gun?" I said "yes." He said "later I was at Jeff's house, (Jeff was V.P. of finance.) and I asked him if he had a gun and Jeff brought out a semi automatic." " I asked him if I could pull the trigger and Jeff said yes, it's not loaded." "I shot a hole in their piano." THE GUN IS ALWAYS LOADED!!!! |
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