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Hurricane Ike evacuees with CHL cannot carry at Civic Center in Beaumont
Port Arthur officials now say evacuation transportation will continue >> www.beaumontenterprise.com - Local
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Methinks they might need them even more in a situation like this. Besides that, they are supposed to leave them at home for the looters to steal? I don't know if the Civic Center is properly posted 30.06 but even if it is they should make an exception for this extraordinary situation.
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Is this policy or law? If the center is not posted my thought is that it is just a nice notification but does not bear the legal burden required by CHL law in Texas. Keep it concealed and no one will know.
If this is policy, then the people who make it need to be taken to task for their idiocy. Find out who they are and put the pressure of votes upon them so that when this happens again they are not around to make the same mistake twice. As far as the looters, they better have plenty of tools and time. Gun safes are not easy to break into and we all keep our guns in those, right?
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I can understand why they don't want them there.
I will also say that I wouldn't be there without one.
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Makes no difference. Eseentially, by appearing at the Civic Center, one is placing oneself under the authority of the "Emergency Coordination Center" or whatever they call theirs. Their policies are no different than martial law. You do's what you's told, or you leaves.
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Location: McKinney, TX
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Prayers go out to those brothers and sisters heading this way, I hope they make it safely.
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Location: Texas
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Someone better versed in the Texas Statutes than me will have to address this one. As far as I know after Texas passed there CHL into law, there was some discrepency as to where people could carry and how many municipalities were saying their buildings were off limits. To my understanding a law was passed basically saying that municipalities can not forbid concealed carry other than to governmental meetings. They are also forbidden them from posting the 30.06 signage on municiple buildings.
I don't know who owns the civic center in Beaumount, or what particular law would cover this ban. If there is not a specific law they are using to ban them, then the instructions will not carry any weight unless the building is privately owned and has a valid 30.06 signage. Someone else may be able to address the specific statute that they are using for this ban. That being said, I am not so sure I would want to bring a firearm into an area that is so full of people who might be tempted to go through your stuff. Then again, I am not so sure I wouldn't go there without one. I am just glad I don't have to be there an face those descisions.
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I thought there were laws passed after katrina about illegally disarming people,and if it's city property they cannot post off limits to CHL holders,
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Either way, 30.06 or not, if it is posted I'll not go there as it tells me a lot about how that site would be run.
I have gear I can use. We just bought my Wife a nice Grand Caravan that sleeps more comfortably than an old Army cot. I'll keep driving until I hit a friendly site or a nice KOA camp site.
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So, how does this work?
CHL is kosher during normal, everyday events, and the government cannot come take your weapons away out of general fear. Reject-Govt-Swiping-Of-Arms-During-Emergency statutes have been passed, and yet the moment a natural emergency/disaster arrives, the government disallows you to have your firearm specifically the sort of defense needs that were blatantly evident during Katrina? Publically-funded and -operated facility at which it's otherwise kosher to carry? Seems to me this is a blatant disregard of such statutes put in place to specifically disallow the disarming of legally-armed citizens during such situations.
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Location: Haughton, Louisiana
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as a paramedic who just got done working a shelter at the bossier city civic center, and about to work it again for ike, i will put it in the way it was out to me by a state trooper at the shelter:
they are not "taking" your guns away, they are keeping you from bringing them in, they check ALL luggage and allow NO: needles, knives, guns, ammo, weapons, drugs, alcohol. if you have a CCP and want to carry, go somewhere else. its that simple. would i want to carry in the shelters i worked? HELL YES! do i want the bozo's in the shelter having a toothbrush they can turn into a weapon: HELL NO i understand they cant differentiate between good guy/bad guy, and cant make special exceptions because the people who cant carry would riot over the "injustice" and "demand equality" and want to bring their guns to.
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