Me and the Media - Page 2

ajphusker1 · October 30th, 2008, 05:52 PM

One of the original articles

JENNIFER HUDSON CASE: Family slayings used to tout gun-rack product -- chicagotribune.com

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Originally Posted by pete156

I just read ajphusker1's previous posts and I'm not seeing a very honest person/company.

He posted that "okay, I bought one" and had just "received it". If you are connected to the company, maybe owner/president, then those posts were crap and you were making it sound like you were just another average joe reviewing the product.

I know that other companies pay people to write online reviews and such, but this is disappointing and dishonest. Unless, by some unbelievable remote chance, he bought into the company after his posts, which I doubt.

Yes I bought one, and I bought the comapny, with some help with some friends.

pete156 · October 30th, 2008, 06:02 PM

Did you own the company when you posted the "review"?

EdC · October 30th, 2008, 06:03 PM

Mr. Peters,

First of all, you shouldn't been called those names.

Second, filtering out all of the vitriole and personal attacks from those articles about you, it's my humble opinion that (regardless of what your intentions were) the result is that your ad or press release or whatever it was exploited a tragedy and was "cheesy" (that's the best word I can come up with to describe it, at the time).

So continue to make and market your product (sounds like a good item and I might just check it out myself), but I can't say that you didn't deserve a little verbal slapping around by the press. (I wouldn't be surprised if you wound up on Keith Olbermann's "Worst Person in World.") Press on, Mr. Peters and it will pass.

old grunt · October 30th, 2008, 06:05 PM

Hang in there John!! The ONLY [Edited] in this equation are the "drive-by" media types. Liberals react with rage when they can't win an argument on merit!!!

ajphusker1 · October 30th, 2008, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pete156

Did you own the company when you posted the "review"?

No, but I was thinking of it. So I am not completely blameless.

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Originally Posted by EdC

Mr. Peters,

First of all, you shouldn't been called those names.

Second, filtering out all of the vitriole and personal attacks from those articles about you, it's my humble opinion that (regardless of what your intentions were) the result is that your ad or press release or whatever it was exploited a tragedy and was "cheesy" (that's the best word I can come up with to describe it, at the time).

So continue to make and market your product (sounds like a good item and I might just check it out myself), but I can't say that you didn't deserve a little verbal slapping around by the press. (I wouldn't be surprised if you wound up on Keith Olbermann's "Worst Person in World.") Press on, Mr. Peters and it will pass.

While the original may have been a tactical mistake, we feel the back lash it created is totally out of proportion. I have been receiving personal attacks in email, newsprint and Internet blogs. We do not believe that we did any more than the news media. Would the reaction to our release had been the same if we were not proposing people arming and protecting themselves. I would like to get the word out that trained arm preparation and protection is a good thing. If you can suggest any way to get our story

Following is our current modified press release.
THE BACKUP BEDSIDE GUN RACK RESPONDS TO WORLD-WIDE MEDIA INQURIES

October 30, 2008 - For Immediate Release

Home BackUp Protection has the deepest sympathy for all families affected by the tragedy of fatal home invasions. It is with these people in mind, and the future victims sure to come, that the bedside shotgun rack was created. It is our intent, desire and hope to save as many lives as possible.

Although America is the greatest country in the world, the frightening reality is that Americans are not safe in their own homes. The BackUp provides protection within reach for anyone who chooses the shotgun as a form of home protection. We know that tens of millions of people own a shotgun with the intent of providing themselves home protection. The only way that shotgun can be a viable form of home protection is if it is accessible when needed.

Sadly, there will be more home invasions and more victims. There will be Americans defenseless in their homes against a known or unknown assailant. The BackUp could save lives. We stand by the fact that this device is a commentary on our safety and life in America and we believe The BackUp to be a deterrent to intruders and a device that does put protection within reach for shotgun owners.

We look forward to a day when home invasions are not happening millions of times a year. We look forward to the time when our society becomes so outraged at the high volume of crime across every street in this nation that we will not let the issue rest until true change, resolve and protection are created. Until that time, we hope all Americans remain safe and secure. And for those millions of Americans who have shotguns in their corners or under their beds, we have made a way for you to have protection within reach in times of need.

This product is not intended for use in homes with children.
Took out website URL so I wouldn't break any more rules.

John

archer51 · October 30th, 2008, 06:23 PM

While I don't personally agree with the timing of the ad, in my mind it does exploit what happened, I don't see where the press is coming from. It's kind of like the pot calling the kettle black. After all, THEY have been exploiting it to sale newspapers and magazines since the moment it happened.

pete156 · October 30th, 2008, 06:25 PM

Ok, I just swear that I read that John Peters was the inventor of said product. At least that's what Fox News said when you appeared in an interview with E.D. Hill.

Roadrunner · October 30th, 2008, 06:27 PM

The ad was in poor taste. I see your point but the timing was very bad. I've made similar mistakes, it's just part of life. It looks as if the backlash is disproportionate but that's not a huge surprise. Issuing an apology was a smart move. Just give it some time to blow over and press on.

ajphusker1 · October 30th, 2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pete156

Ok, I just swear that I read that John Peters was the inventor of said product. At least that's what Fox News said when you appeared in an interview with E.D. Hill.

I wish. I corrected her on the program and said we bought the patient.

Bumper · October 30th, 2008, 06:31 PM

I don't think John is the first person, by any means that has been impressed with a product and purchased the distribution rights, or the company. While it may be a risky thing to use current events as advertising opportunity, this, too, is done all the time. These responses don't surprise me because it has afforded them the opportunity to slap someone that has a gun-related business. It does, however, disturb me that people here are taking the opportunity. We're all in this together if you haven't noticed....

October 30th, 2008, 06:05 PM	#14
old grunt Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 602	Hang in there John!! The ONLY [Edited] in this equation are the "drive-by" media types. Liberals react with rage when they can't win an argument on merit!!! __________________ "We deal in lead friend">Steve McQueen The Magnificent Seven 82d Abn(1983-86)OIF 2007-08 Glock 19&26/ Colt Gov't & OM Retired NYS LEO / NRA Life Member Palin 2012......GO SARAH !! "no kidding,gun slinging,spurs hitting the floor" Last edited by Captain Crunch; October 31st, 2008 at 01:56 AM.. Reason: Deleted a language workaround.

October 30th, 2008, 06:27 PM	#18
Roadrunner Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NW PA Posts: 737	The ad was in poor taste. I see your point but the timing was very bad. I've made similar mistakes, it's just part of life. It looks as if the backlash is disproportionate but that's not a huge surprise. Issuing an apology was a smart move. Just give it some time to blow over and press on. __________________ - Kurt “Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.” ~Pericles of Athens Primary Carry - Colt Commander .45 in a Brommeland Max-Con V

October 30th, 2008, 06:31 PM	#20
Bumper Administrator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 17,246	I don't think John is the first person, by any means that has been impressed with a product and purchased the distribution rights, or the company. While it may be a risky thing to use current events as advertising opportunity, this, too, is done all the time. These responses don't surprise me because it has afforded them the opportunity to slap someone that has a gun-related business. It does, however, disturb me that people here are taking the opportunity. We're all in this together if you haven't noticed.... __________________ Bumper Administrator DefensiveCarry.com Forum Coimhéad fearg fhear na foighde; Beware the anger of a patient man.

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October 30th, 2008, 06:02 PM	#12
pete156 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 108	Did you own the company when you posted the "review"?

October 30th, 2008, 06:03 PM	#13
EdC Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Speedway, Indiana Posts: 121	Mr. Peters, First of all, you shouldn't been called those names. Second, filtering out all of the vitriole and personal attacks from those articles about you, it's my humble opinion that (regardless of what your intentions were) the result is that your ad or press release or whatever it was exploited a tragedy and was "cheesy" (that's the best word I can come up with to describe it, at the time). So continue to make and market your product (sounds like a good item and I might just check it out myself), but I can't say that you didn't deserve a little verbal slapping around by the press. (I wouldn't be surprised if you wound up on Keith Olbermann's "Worst Person in World.") Press on, Mr. Peters and it will pass.

October 30th, 2008, 06:23 PM	#16
archer51 VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: VA Posts: 6,205	While I don't personally agree with the timing of the ad, in my mind it does exploit what happened, I don't see where the press is coming from. It's kind of like the pot calling the kettle black. After all, THEY have been exploiting it to sale newspapers and magazines since the moment it happened.

October 30th, 2008, 06:25 PM	#17
pete156 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 108	Ok, I just swear that I read that John Peters was the inventor of said product. At least that's what Fox News said when you appeared in an interview with E.D. Hill.