Idiot in Gun Store - Page 4

KenInColo · February 16th, 2009, 12:13 AM

Whenever I'm down in Grand Junction, CO, I always stop in at the Sportsman's Warehouse to see what new stuff they might have. A couple weeks ago, while at SW, I saw a real nice Yaqui Slide holster for an H&K USPc .40.

I was wearing my EDC (H&K P2000) and thought that the holster might fit it.

With the holster, I went over to the clerk & and said:
"Say, I'm carrying a pistol that I think this holster might fit. Would you have any problem with me checking that right now. If you don't want me to, I'll understand."
"No problem." the clerk said.

We went down to the end of the counter, where there were no customers; I removed the mag, cleared the round in the chamber & handed it to him at slide lock. He examined it and handed it back to me. I then closed the slide and put in in the Yaqui. it fit nicely.

I reholstered my now empty pistol, paid for the new holster at the front register and left. I went to me car where I reloaded my pistol. I don't think anyone noticed the entire transaction.

WC145 · February 16th, 2009, 12:20 AM

People pull guns out in pawn and gun shops all the time. I've taken mine out numerous times to show a feature, ask a question, try a holster, etc. And, it doesn't matter if this guy's gun was in a holster or not, or even if it was loaded or not. He handled it safely, didn't wave it around, didn't point it at anyone. Sounds to me like no big deal, except you freaked out and started yelling at the guy and blowing it out of proportion. You're lucky your reaction didn't start something. If it had been me I'd have told you in no uncertain terms where to go and how to get there.

theghostrider · February 16th, 2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BradyM77

Thanks for all the posts and after much thought I have to agree that my reaction was over the top and I very well could have escalated the situation.
In answer to some of the questions I was less than a foot away stooped over ogling the XDM in the display. When I looked over he unzipped his pocket (hoodie pocket going across stomach with entrance on either side), and pulled out his pistol less than two feet from my head. So I got a good look at it and fully believe it was loaded and know for a fact that he had no holster.
I should have just walked out at that point but my adrenaline got the best of me.

So, are we to understand that you actually saw it in his pocket, before he reached in to pull it out?

One thing. He should have cleared immediately after drawing it, regardless if was loaded or not.

BradyM77 · February 16th, 2009, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by theghostrider

So, are we to understand that you actually saw it in his pocket, before he reached in to pull it out?

Yes, I was stooped over looking in the display case while he stood about a foot away on my left side. I looked over when he started unzipping his right side pocket. I saw him reach in and pull his pistol about two feet from my head. It was sitting upside down with the barrel pointing away from me when he grabbed it.
And also I didn't yell at the guy, I spoke in a normal tone when I called him out on his pulling his pistol. I'm not defending what I did, in hindsight I should have just walked out.

TN_Mike · February 16th, 2009, 12:55 AM

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What would any of you do if somebody pulls a loaded gun out of there pocket at your GS?

At the gun shop I frequent, that gets you ejected. But, if someone did that and they didn't get asked to leave, I would leave.

JRI · February 16th, 2009, 01:04 AM

What's the big deal here? The old guy was talking to the store clerk and then pulled a weapon from his zippered pocket and demonstrated the laser to the clerk after which he returned the weapon to the zippered pocket. You provide no synopsis of the conversation but call his actions stupid. I think you should lighten up before you have a stroke.

Sorry, but I don't see anything stupid with the actions you describe. In fact it seems you had more of a reaction then the clerk directly involved. You were in a gun store weren't you? Now if you were in a bank and described this same exchange I might agree that it was stupid. In this case I think you were over reacting.

usmc3169 · February 16th, 2009, 04:10 AM

I think at this point it is safe to say the OP realizes that he may have over reacted - however anytime ANY ONE pulls a gun out that I dont personally know my radar bumps up to the next level, I move from code yellow to code orange. Until they prove otherwise I have to assume that the gun MAY turn into a threat. Pat on the back to the OP for having his radar on. Better to have some kind of reaction than not notice it like a sheep, now the only thing left is to work on controlling that reaction.

Blackjeep · February 16th, 2009, 07:35 AM

"NO LOADED HANDGUNS" means squat in my state. Don't draw the weapon though. Not much use in CC if everyone knows you are carrying so like the other stuff in your pants, keep it there.

pirate · February 16th, 2009, 08:16 AM

Its a gun store and pivate property so certainly nothing illegal going on here IMO. Is it the best example of gun safety.....no, but as long as he is not waving a loaded gun around I am not overly concerned but I would just keep an eye on the situation (radar up a notch) and leave if I started to feel uncomfortable with his actions.

rottkeeper · February 16th, 2009, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BradyM77

I should have just walked out at that point but my adrenaline got the best of me.

Been their done that, it's a bitter pill but walking away is better.

February 16th, 2009, 12:13 AM	#31
KenInColo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Western Colorado Posts: 964	Whenever I'm down in Grand Junction, CO, I always stop in at the Sportsman's Warehouse to see what new stuff they might have. A couple weeks ago, while at SW, I saw a real nice Yaqui Slide holster for an H&K USPc .40. I was wearing my EDC (H&K P2000) and thought that the holster might fit it. With the holster, I went over to the clerk & and said: "Say, I'm carrying a pistol that I think this holster might fit. Would you have any problem with me checking that right now. If you don't want me to, I'll understand." "No problem." the clerk said. We went down to the end of the counter, where there were no customers; I removed the mag, cleared the round in the chamber & handed it to him at slide lock. He examined it and handed it back to me. I then closed the slide and put in in the Yaqui. it fit nicely. I reholstered my now empty pistol, paid for the new holster at the front register and left. I went to me car where I reloaded my pistol. I don't think anyone noticed the entire transaction. __________________ An armed populace are called citizens. An unarmed populace are called subjects.

February 16th, 2009, 04:10 AM	#37
usmc3169 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 493	I think at this point it is safe to say the OP realizes that he may have over reacted - however anytime ANY ONE pulls a gun out that I dont personally know my radar bumps up to the next level, I move from code yellow to code orange. Until they prove otherwise I have to assume that the gun MAY turn into a threat. Pat on the back to the OP for having his radar on. Better to have some kind of reaction than not notice it like a sheep, now the only thing left is to work on controlling that reaction. __________________ S&W M&P340CT, Glock 22, Springfield XDm, SIG Sauer P229 Elite "For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know". Unknown Marine, Khe Sanh

February 16th, 2009, 08:16 AM	#39
pirate Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Eastern NC / Pirate Country Posts: 624	Its a gun store and pivate property so certainly nothing illegal going on here IMO. Is it the best example of gun safety.....no, but as long as he is not waving a loaded gun around I am not overly concerned but I would just keep an eye on the situation (radar up a notch) and leave if I started to feel uncomfortable with his actions. __________________ When I leave the home port: S&W 642 Airweight, Ruger SP 101, Colt Detective Spec., CZ RAMI, Springfield XD 9mm, Kahr PM9, Kahr CW40, S&W Model 10-7, Glock 19, Glock 26, Browning Hi Power, CZ82, Colt Commander

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February 16th, 2009, 12:20 AM	#32
WC145 Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Downeast Maine Posts: 213	People pull guns out in pawn and gun shops all the time. I've taken mine out numerous times to show a feature, ask a question, try a holster, etc. And, it doesn't matter if this guy's gun was in a holster or not, or even if it was loaded or not. He handled it safely, didn't wave it around, didn't point it at anyone. Sounds to me like no big deal, except you freaked out and started yelling at the guy and blowing it out of proportion. You're lucky your reaction didn't start something. If it had been me I'd have told you in no uncertain terms where to go and how to get there.

February 16th, 2009, 01:04 AM	#36
JRI Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: FL Posts: 59	What's the big deal here? The old guy was talking to the store clerk and then pulled a weapon from his zippered pocket and demonstrated the laser to the clerk after which he returned the weapon to the zippered pocket. You provide no synopsis of the conversation but call his actions stupid. I think you should lighten up before you have a stroke. Sorry, but I don't see anything stupid with the actions you describe. In fact it seems you had more of a reaction then the clerk directly involved. You were in a gun store weren't you? Now if you were in a bank and described this same exchange I might agree that it was stupid. In this case I think you were over reacting.

February 16th, 2009, 07:35 AM	#38
Blackjeep Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SC Posts: 32	"NO LOADED HANDGUNS" means squat in my state. Don't draw the weapon though. Not much use in CC if everyone knows you are carrying so like the other stuff in your pants, keep it there.