Dont' talk to cops - even if you are innocent - this is a must see...

Tangle · April 2nd, 2009, 10:00 AM

First and foremost, this is not cop bashing in any way. What it is, is some of the best advice you can get and why - presented by a defense attorney AND a police officer that has interveiwed (they don't use 'interrogation' any more.) over 1000 people.

You only need to watch part 1 and part 2. There are parts 3 and 4, but they appear to be exactly the same as part 1 and part 2.

part 1:
YouTube - Don't Talk to Cops, Part 1

part 2:
YouTube - Don't Talk to Cops, Part 2

HiPower70 · April 2nd, 2009, 10:54 AM

great info, thanks!

rottkeeper · April 2nd, 2009, 10:56 AM

A must see, I have seen it before but had to watch it again.

retsupt99 · April 2nd, 2009, 11:48 AM

I have seen these before, but definitely worth repeating...good vid's...

The importance of a 'refresher' viewing can't be underestimated.

tns0038 · April 2nd, 2009, 12:50 PM

Well, I have mixed views on that issue.

You only have one opportunity to make a good impression.

And the officer asking the questions is going to make up his/her mind quickly based on the information and facts presented.

Sure, if you have the “extra funds” it’s always wise to have an attorney present, but if it’s a no brainer simple issue, and you have a friend there that can witness as to what is said, I’d go ahead and answer the officers questions.

GunnyBunny · April 2nd, 2009, 01:02 PM

Loooooooooonnnnnnnnng, but worth watching.

Captain Crunch · April 2nd, 2009, 01:05 PM

This is also posted in the Reference & "How To" Forum:

School of law professor and police officer videos on not talking to the police

Just FYI.

Tangle · April 2nd, 2009, 01:11 PM

Thanks Captain - merge them maybe?

johnsonabq · April 2nd, 2009, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tns0038

Well, I have mixed views on that issue.

You only have one opportunity to make a good impression.

And the officer asking the questions is going to make up his/her mind quickly based on the information and facts presented.

Sure, if you have the “extra funds” it’s always wise to have an attorney present, but if it’s a no brainer simple issue, and you have a friend there that can witness as to what is said, I’d go ahead and answer the officers questions.

My concealed carry instructor who is both a lawyer and a cop told us all...

"When the police arrive tell them "I was in fear for my life", "I want to sign a complaint", and last, "I want to talk to a lawyer". That's it. Period.

Because, unless this is something that happens to you all the time, you are in no state of mind to know whatever you might say to the police will help or hurt you if at a later date this whole thing winds up in court.

At least this is what I'm going to do if "God forbid" I'm in that position.

speak2u · April 2nd, 2009, 01:28 PM

Besides being an instructor I am a licensed mental health professional and critical incident stress debriefer. When I teach about the aftermath of a shooting (or any crisis event for that matter) I talk heavily about psychological and physical reactions to a violent event. During that time your body and mind are not working as they should so anything you say or do is going to be muddled up. That is what a debriefing does - reorient to the real. I also tell them that this is a normal reaction to an abnormal event - heard on TV the other night (for what it's worth) that 97% of LE never fire their gun except on the range. Our percentage is probably much lower. If you talk during this time, your judgement is off, sense of time, sight, hearing, coordination etc. If LE hears you say someting, they won't take this into account, just what you said..... so be smart and (excuse the pun) "hold your fire." You'll be glad you did. I have a standing offer with those I teach, first the lawyer and then if need be call me. LE has a department shrink, but civilians have nothing. I hope to help in that manner - have not had to yet but the offer is still there.

April 2nd, 2009, 10:00 AM	#1
Tangle Senior Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chattanooga Posts: 6,611	Dont' talk to cops - even if you are innocent - this is a must see... First and foremost, this is not cop bashing in any way. What it is, is some of the best advice you can get and why - presented by a defense attorney AND a police officer that has interveiwed (they don't use 'interrogation' any more.) over 1000 people. You only need to watch part 1 and part 2. There are parts 3 and 4, but they appear to be exactly the same as part 1 and part 2. part 1: YouTube - Don't Talk to Cops, Part 1 part 2: YouTube - Don't Talk to Cops, Part 2 __________________ My other car is a 1911.

April 2nd, 2009, 10:56 AM	#3
rottkeeper VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: New York Posts: 2,225	A must see, I have seen it before but had to watch it again. __________________ For as the lighting comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the son of man be. Mathew 24:27 NRA Member

April 2nd, 2009, 11:48 AM	#4
retsupt99 VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 22,699	I have seen these before, but definitely worth repeating...good vid's... The importance of a 'refresher' viewing can't be underestimated. __________________ "That I cannot do." "Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks." *********************************** NRA Life Member

April 2nd, 2009, 01:02 PM	#6
GunnyBunny VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Victoria, B.C. Posts: 2,110	Loooooooooonnnnnnnnng, but worth watching. __________________ CCW permit holder for Utah, Pennsylvannia, Maine and New Hampshire. I can carry in your country but not my own.

April 2nd, 2009, 01:05 PM	#7
Captain Crunch 1943 - 2009 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Montana Posts: 10,408	This is also posted in the Reference & "How To" Forum: School of law professor and police officer videos on not talking to the police Just FYI. __________________ When you’re wounded and left on Afghanistan’s plains, And the women come out to cut up what remains, Just roll to your rifle and blow out your brains, And go to your God like a soldier. Rudyard Kipling Terry

April 2nd, 2009, 10:54 AM	#2
HiPower70 New Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 13	great info, thanks!

April 2nd, 2009, 12:50 PM	#5
tns0038 Distinguished Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 1,931	Well, I have mixed views on that issue. You only have one opportunity to make a good impression. And the officer asking the questions is going to make up his/her mind quickly based on the information and facts presented. Sure, if you have the “extra funds” it’s always wise to have an attorney present, but if it’s a no brainer simple issue, and you have a friend there that can witness as to what is said, I’d go ahead and answer the officers questions.

April 2nd, 2009, 01:11 PM	#8
Tangle Senior Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chattanooga Posts: 6,611	Thanks Captain - merge them maybe? __________________ My other car is a 1911.

April 2nd, 2009, 01:28 PM	#10
speak2u Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Rochester, MN Posts: 60	talk Besides being an instructor I am a licensed mental health professional and critical incident stress debriefer. When I teach about the aftermath of a shooting (or any crisis event for that matter) I talk heavily about psychological and physical reactions to a violent event. During that time your body and mind are not working as they should so anything you say or do is going to be muddled up. That is what a debriefing does - reorient to the real. I also tell them that this is a normal reaction to an abnormal event - heard on TV the other night (for what it's worth) that 97% of LE never fire their gun except on the range. Our percentage is probably much lower. If you talk during this time, your judgement is off, sense of time, sight, hearing, coordination etc. If LE hears you say someting, they won't take this into account, just what you said..... so be smart and (excuse the pun) "hold your fire." You'll be glad you did. I have a standing offer with those I teach, first the lawyer and then if need be call me. LE has a department shrink, but civilians have nothing. I hope to help in that manner - have not had to yet but the offer is still there. __________________ NRA Certified Instructor MADFI Certified Instructor Glock 34, 35 XD 9 MM, 9 MM SC, 9 MM Tactical, XDM 9MM, XDM 40, Beretta Neos, CX4 Storm

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