Pikachu711

I carry a small card in my wallet that reads as follows in the event I am stopped or detained by the local LEO's. If I do have to use my G26 in self defense I may have to use this card. Tell me what you think.

"I hearby invoke and refuse to waive all the following rights and privileges to me by the U.S. Constitution.

-I invoke and refuse to waive the my Fifth Amendment right to remain silent. Do not ask me any questions.

-I invoke and refuse to waive my Sixth Amendment right to an attorney of my choice. Do not ask me any questions without my attorney present.

-I invoke and refuse to waive all privileges and rights pursuant to the case Miranda v. Arizona. Do not ask me any questions or make any statement to me about this decision.

-I invoke and refuse to waive my Fourth Amendment right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures. I do not consent to any search or seizure of myself, my home, or any property in my possession. Do not ask me about my ownership interest in any property. I do not consent to this contact with you. If I am not presently under arrest or under investigatory detention, please allow me to leave.

-Any statement I make or allegedly consent I give, in response to your questions is hereby made under duress and in submission to your claim of lawful authority to force me to provide you with information."

Well, what do you think? Is this something that you might want to have in your wallet or purse?

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deadeye72

Quick answer: No.

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Pikachu711

The only reason I carry this card is in the event I actually have to use my G26 to defend myself. As we all know all too well, ANYTHING we say can and WILL be used against us in a court of law.

I would rather play it safe and talk to an attorney before I answer any questions by any responding LEO's. The last thing I need is any statement I make under the circumstances of a what I believe is a "self defense" shooting taken out of context. You future freedom may defend upon what you say or DON'T say to LEO's.

Thanks for your reply.

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retsupt99

Sounds like a Mafia Don reporting to Congress...

Just politely explain your position to LE and go from there. You may even ask to go to the hospital because your are concerned for your own health and mental state from this incident...gives you time to call your attorney and think.

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TonyB

I am a little shakey officer....can you call an ambulance,i need to go to the hospital.thank you...I probably shouldn't answer any questions until I regain myself.
that and maybe,'I was in fear for my life"are the only statements I would make untill consulting a lawyer.and BTW get a lawyer who actually knows a lttle about guns/self defense.

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Pikachu711

I'm in the process of trying to locate a lawyer here in Las Vegas in the event I have to defend my life. You should see the rather large section of the yellow pages listed under attorneys. It's lengthy to say the least!

The last think I need is to try to locate an attorney at the last minute. I'm doing the best I can under the circumstances. The vast majority of the defense attorneys offer a "free consultation." But that doesn't cover the first few hours after I hopefully will NEVER have to take another human life.

That is why I posted this item about the card in my wallet. I would hope that the LEO's would understand why I would prefer to consult an attorney prior to making any statements of any kind under the circumstances.

Thanks again for you comments. They are greatly appreciated! I sincerely mean this! I have worked with the traveling public here in Las Vegas for over 22 years. I welcome any comments from you either positive OR negative. I am open to constructive criticism regardless of your perspective of the card I carry in my wallet.

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deadeye72

Even in a self defense situation, using that card could make it look like you were out looking for someone to shoot.

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semperfi.45

NO. It's a pre-made use when I may be guilty card. Some of it is good info and may be a point to stick with, but only after (I agree with TonyB) going to the hospital and having time to confer with a pre-chosen counsel.

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Trail Boss

When I went to my concealed carry class we had a segment on this exact thing. The film we saw advised us to do just as you say. Even if the LEO is on your side anything you say can and will be used against you. Nothing you say can be used to help your case as it will be considered "hear say". Good point thanks for posting it.

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tns0038

Being a former LEO I have mixed feelings.

On the one hand your card is an excellent idea and great way to remind yourself of your rights.

But on the other hand, you have to remember you’re the one a crime was just committed against, that required you to use your weapon in self-defense.

Attempted mugging, assault, murder, carjacking, the list goes on.

Since you’re the only one still standing this is your one time chance to tell what happen, with your viewpoint on that crime, before the responding LEO’s make up their mind as to what happen.

This is also your only chance to gather witness that where in the area to stay and report what they saw regarding the crime that just happen against you.

By cooperating and getting other witness, you make the LEO’s job easier and with the additional witness, also relaying the same story the DA reading this officer’s report is far less likely to look into the shooting further; and it is listed as a justified self-defense shooting.

On the other hand, if you don’t have a friend/relative there with you, the officer can put down anything he/she wants in that report and say you said it. And if this should go to court, the LEO’s word will be believed by juniors over yours.