Do I have this right? - Page 2

DaveH · June 23rd, 2009, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Realleycat

I forgot to mention this. While I'm driving the gun will be holstered in the glove box. I think that Ohio is the only state that this is not allowed? [emphasize added]

Are you going to be in the vehicle alone?

If so OK.

If you will have someone else in the vehicle you might want to reconsider "holstered in the glove box" here in Virginia -- unless they also have a CHP. The issue is "Who has control/possession of the weapon?" It's a clear violation if you get out, however briefly, and the other person is still in the car with a concealed weapon in the glove box. Also, the fact that the glove box is more accessibly to the passenger than the driver could be a sticky point w/ the wrong LEO/judge.

OTOH, if it is in plain sight you and your passenger would be OK -- i.e., we're an Open Carry State.

natticarry · June 23rd, 2009, 11:38 PM

lol, the state laws can get confusing. Ohio it is oh to have it holstered or un-holstered in the glove box but you can not openly be carrying it in the car even though we are an open carry state. however you can conceal carry on your person in the car. The part about other people in the car while you are not would apply in Ohio too so make sure you are the last to get out of the car. I have not heard of anyone having issues with this or the passenger thing but it doesn't mean it can't happen. The other really really really (am I stressing this enough) important thing about Ohio is informing the police officer immediately that you are a permit holder and are carrying. Most people give advice of just showing your permit and license at the same time. There has been cases where the permit holder was accused of failure to inform by using this technique. This can also get tricky with officers who want to give you orders right away without you saying anything until after you comply... so be insistent that you must speak if you find yourself in this situation. It has been generally accepted that starting off with "officer I am required by law to inform you....."

Realleycat · June 24th, 2009, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tflhndn

In NC, carry IS allowed in rest areas, the only state-owned property where concealed carry is legal.

Also, carrying in glove box is considered COncealed carry and you must inform LEO of permit at beginning of interaction

Oh Yes. I forgot about informing LEO!!! In Florida you don't have to..

Realleycat · June 24th, 2009, 08:52 AM

The gun would be in the glove box while driving, but holstered when I get out of the vehicle. I don't have a good driving holster and after several hundred miles it get's to be a pain in the Side!!!

JDE101 · June 24th, 2009, 10:33 AM

Another point about Ohio--if it is on your person, it must be in a holster. You cannot just tuck it in you waist band or stick it in a pocket. Pocket holsters are ok though--they are "holsters". The best thing to do is go to the site previously posted by another Ohioan and read all the info about Ohio carry laws.

Have a good and safe trip.

GlockGal · June 24th, 2009, 04:55 PM

If you happen to get pulled in North Carolina turn on your interior light, roll your window half way down and put both hands on the wheel. This is the way an officer knows that you are carrying in NC. When he comes to the window, simply inform him that you possess a concealed carry permit and have a weapon on your person. At that time he will ask you where your weapon is located (glove box, right hip, left hip, etc...) and where your license and registration is as well. After all that is established, the officer will then more than likely instruct you to retrieve your license and registration SLOWLY and all should be fine. Have a GREAT trip!

Faitmaker · June 24th, 2009, 05:03 PM

Small corrections. I'm an Ohio resident but you can find all this out at the AG website. Ohio Attorney General - Concealed Carry

If you have a CCW, you can transport your loaded firearm A)Holstered on your person (does NOT need to be concealed) B)Center Console, C)glove box or in a closable container (briefcase, purse, backpack, etc). You can also carry it unloaded in your trunk.

highvoltage · June 24th, 2009, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Realleycat

I forgot to mention this. While I'm driving the gun will be holstered in the glove box. I think that Ohio is the only state that this is not allowed?

Here is the Ohio law excerpt as found in handgunlaw.us:

Quote:

Transporting in Motor Vehicles
• The transportation of loaded, concealed handguns in motor vehicles is permitted, but strict obligations are imposed by the law to protect you and law enforcement. These obligations apply to drivers and occupants. These obligations do not apply if you are storing a firearm for any lawful purpose and it is not on your person or you are lawfully storing or possessing a firearm in your home.

You may not have a loaded handgun in the vehicle if you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol. If you have a concealed carry permit, you may not transport a loaded, concealed handgun in a vehicle
unless it is carried in one of the following ways:

• The loaded handgun is in a holster secured on the person. Ohio law previously required carrying firearms in a holster in plain sight. The “plain sight” provision has been removed from the law.
• The loaded handgun is in a closed case, bag, box, or other container that is in plain sight and that has a lid, a cover, or a closing mechanism with a zipper, snap, or buckle, which lid, cover or closing mechanism must be opened for a person to gain access to the handgun, or
• The loaded handgun is securely encased by being stored in a closed, glove compartment or console,
• or in a case that is locked.

M203Sniper · June 24th, 2009, 11:51 PM

Handgunlaw.us

Another good point of order. If you keep you're pistol in your glove box, keep your vehicle information some place else.

Realleycat · June 26th, 2009, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by M203Sniper

Handgunlaw.us

Another good point of order. If you keep you're pistol in your glove box, keep your vehicle information some place else.

Now that makes sense. I never thought of that!!!

June 24th, 2009, 08:52 AM	#14
Realleycat Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Florida Posts: 312	The gun would be in the glove box while driving, but holstered when I get out of the vehicle. I don't have a good driving holster and after several hundred miles it get's to be a pain in the Side!!! __________________ Tony

June 24th, 2009, 10:33 AM	#15
JDE101 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 450	Another point about Ohio--if it is on your person, it must be in a holster. You cannot just tuck it in you waist band or stick it in a pocket. Pocket holsters are ok though--they are "holsters". The best thing to do is go to the site previously posted by another Ohioan and read all the info about Ohio carry laws. Have a good and safe trip. __________________ Live to ride, ride to live. Harley Road King And keep a .45 handy Kimber Custom TLE II

June 24th, 2009, 05:03 PM	#17
Faitmaker Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 310	Small corrections. I'm an Ohio resident but you can find all this out at the AG website. Ohio Attorney General - Concealed Carry If you have a CCW, you can transport your loaded firearm A)Holstered on your person (does NOT need to be concealed) B)Center Console, C)glove box or in a closable container (briefcase, purse, backpack, etc). You can also carry it unloaded in your trunk. __________________ When I leave in the morning, I take all my rights with me. - Glenn Beck NRA Life Member / CHL Holder / Threeper

June 24th, 2009, 11:51 PM	#19
M203Sniper Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 159	Handgunlaw.us Another good point of order. If you keep you're pistol in your glove box, keep your vehicle information some place else. __________________ "Words can be as lethal as bullets; Choose them carefully, Aim them well & Use them sparingly."

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June 23rd, 2009, 11:38 PM	#12
natticarry Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: cincinnati Posts: 98	lol, the state laws can get confusing. Ohio it is oh to have it holstered or un-holstered in the glove box but you can not openly be carrying it in the car even though we are an open carry state. however you can conceal carry on your person in the car. The part about other people in the car while you are not would apply in Ohio too so make sure you are the last to get out of the car. I have not heard of anyone having issues with this or the passenger thing but it doesn't mean it can't happen. The other really really really (am I stressing this enough) important thing about Ohio is informing the police officer immediately that you are a permit holder and are carrying. Most people give advice of just showing your permit and license at the same time. There has been cases where the permit holder was accused of failure to inform by using this technique. This can also get tricky with officers who want to give you orders right away without you saying anything until after you comply... so be insistent that you must speak if you find yourself in this situation. It has been generally accepted that starting off with "officer I am required by law to inform you....."

June 24th, 2009, 04:55 PM	#16
GlockGal Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 101	If you happen to get pulled in North Carolina turn on your interior light, roll your window half way down and put both hands on the wheel. This is the way an officer knows that you are carrying in NC. When he comes to the window, simply inform him that you possess a concealed carry permit and have a weapon on your person. At that time he will ask you where your weapon is located (glove box, right hip, left hip, etc...) and where your license and registration is as well. After all that is established, the officer will then more than likely instruct you to retrieve your license and registration SLOWLY and all should be fine. Have a GREAT trip!