Almost drew gun today, Did spray mace (kinda long) - Page 10

airworthy · June 26th, 2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dldeuce

The topic at hand according to your own eyewitness account is that you were about to draw your gun on a puppy.

So by your standard all dogs are born 3/4 grown? That must be hard on mother with a big litter!

airworthy · June 26th, 2009, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dldeuce

I'm passing judgment based upon the same first person account of the events as everyone else. I've owned large dog breeds with a reputation for aggression all my life. I've been standing on all sides of this issue many times before. I've seen a grown man screaming like a little girl just about wetting his pants over a three month old puppy that was just barking at him. I've been confronted on the street by a growling mastiff. I've had to defend myself from two grown german shepherds aggressively tag teaming me, and I think I can tell the difference. I've been around dogs enough to be confident that this was no where near the kind of dire situation that would justify drawing a gun on a puppy.

So you can tell the difference huh? I guess you and you alone have this special gift.

dldeuce · June 26th, 2009, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by airworthy

So by your standard all dogs are born 3/4 grown? That must be hard on mother with a big litter!

By my standard, when the OP refers to a 3/4 grown dog, he's referring to a puppy.

airworthy · June 26th, 2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dldeuce

By my standard, when the OP refers to a 3/4 grown dog, he's referring to a puppy.

What if he had said 15/16 grown or how about 63/64 grown? Lets see....... I'll be 50 years old this October and the average age for a man is somewhere about 80 so that would make me 5/8 grown so if I came at you with gun would you draw down at me because by your reasoning I would still be a baby.

dldeuce · June 26th, 2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by airworthy

What if he had said 15/16 grown or how about 63/64 grown? Lets see....... I'll be 50 years old this October and the average age for a man is somewhere about 80 so that would make me 5/8 grown so if I came at you with gun would you draw down a me because by your reasoning I would still be a baby.

We're talking about a 3/4 grown Boxer. That's a puppy by his own account, just like I said. I find it very difficult to accept, laughable really, that a puppy put this guy in the kind of circumstance that would justify drawing a gun. Puppy, mace, gun, cops, mountain, molehill.

Nuff said.

C hawk Glock · June 26th, 2009, 04:56 PM

I think you might have "jumped the can" on spraying those dogs, but it's really hard for anyone to judge another person actions in the heat of an incident.

My only issue is when I hear people say that the owner should not ever have let his dog out. As being a responsible dog owner, sometimes there can be accidents. My father in-law is a little dense about making sure our front door or rear gates are closed and my dogs have slipped out before. The ******** are quick! haha

My point is that some people tend to carry firearms and pepper spray and look for excuses to use them, and by no means am I saying that this is the case during this confrontation. I think people need to be cognizant in what they are doing and make sure to not use excessive force unless it's necessary.

airworthy · June 26th, 2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dldeuce

We're talking about a 3/4 grown Boxer. That's a puppy by his own account, just like I said. I find it very difficult to accept, laughable really, that a puppy put this guy in the kind of circumstance that would justify drawing a gun. Puppy, mace, gun, cops, mountain, molehill.

Nuff said.

No, he never used the word puppy. Only you and the dog owner have used that term. And you still didn't answer my question. Would you draw down on me if I was only 5/8 grown?

Ragin Cajun · June 26th, 2009, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by airworthy

The dog owner called them puppies. I know a man with a 13 year old Lab and he still calls him a puppy. Besides, what else would he say after both his dogs just tried to attack someone? I have owned dogs all my life and I know the difference between a puppy and something else. I believe most people(like our friend here) do too. I also find it funny that of all the responses in this post you seem to display the cocky, know it all attitude, that only a REAL mall ninja would have.

I couldn't have said that better myself. When he gets the weight of the dogs involved then I might believe him when he insist they were puppies. If I feel threathened by a dog running up to me, I'm not taking my chances and if the owner wants to get stupid about it, I'll deal with them when I finish with the first problem.

Nozoki · June 26th, 2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dldeuce

I've been around dogs enough to be confident that this was no where near the kind of dire situation that would justify drawing a gun on a puppy.

I've been around enough dogs to know I can't read their minds and I don't want any strange dog charging at me regardless of their breed, age, size, or religious affiliation. And by charging I mean running toward me at a speed greater than a brisk walk. You never know what might flip a dog's switch from friendly to ferocious.

airworthy · June 26th, 2009, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by airworthy

I think you did the correct thing. I live in central Michigan and less than 7 miles from where I live two people were mauled to death by a pack of lose dogs. One was a 40 year old women who was out walking down a country road. The other was a 80 year old man who was a neighbor to the women who owned the dogs. He was killed by the dogs in his own yard. All this happened on the same day. Also, less than a year ago, my next door neighbor's two dogs mauled another neighbors horse while in was in it's own stall. It was mauled so bad that it had to be put down. The sheriff dept had to shoot both dogs. So needless to say, when I walk my dog at home I am armed to the max and have NO problems taking the correct actions should the need arise. I have NO tolerence for people who don't control their animals. Dogs may not know any better but their owners sure as h*ll do!

I didn't mention it before but both of the dogs mention above which attacked the horse were less 5 years old making them less than 1/2 grown. By "some peoples" reasoning that would mean two "puppies" mauled a horse so bad it had to be put down.

June 26th, 2009, 04:56 PM	#96
C hawk Glock Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: W. Washington Posts: 336	I think you might have "jumped the can" on spraying those dogs, but it's really hard for anyone to judge another person actions in the heat of an incident. My only issue is when I hear people say that the owner should not ever have let his dog out. As being a responsible dog owner, sometimes there can be accidents. My father in-law is a little dense about making sure our front door or rear gates are closed and my dogs have slipped out before. The ******** are quick! haha My point is that some people tend to carry firearms and pepper spray and look for excuses to use them, and by no means am I saying that this is the case during this confrontation. I think people need to be cognizant in what they are doing and make sure to not use excessive force unless it's necessary. __________________ Thank you sir, may I have another?

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