Driving from Charlotte NC to Orlando FL - Page 2

schwaa · June 27th, 2009, 12:08 PM

Heres the florida statutes as they relate to concealed carry within a car without a permit.

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Definitions

(16) "Readily accessible for immediate use" means that a firearm or other weapon is carried on the person or within such close proximity and in such a manner that it can be retrieved and used as easily and quickly as if carried on the person.

(17) "Securely encased" means in a glove compartment, whether or not locked; snapped in a holster; in a gun case, whether or not locked; in a zippered gun case; or in a closed box or container which requires a lid or cover to be opened for access.

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790.25 Lawful ownership, possession, and use of firearms and other weapons

(3) LAWFUL USES.--The provisions of ss. 790.053 and 790.06 do not apply in the following instances, and, despite such sections, it is lawful for the following persons to own, possess, and lawfully use firearms and other weapons, ammunition, and supplies for lawful purposes:

(j) A person firing weapons for testing or target practice under safe conditions and in a safe place not prohibited by law or going to or from such place;

(l) A person traveling by private conveyance when the weapon is securely encased or in a public conveyance when the weapon is securely encased and not in the person's manual possession;

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5) POSSESSION IN PRIVATE CONVEYANCE.--Notwithstanding subsection (2), it is lawful and is not a violation of s. 790.01 for a person 18 years of age or older to possess a concealed firearm or other weapon for self-defense or other lawful purpose within the interior of a private conveyance, without a license, if the firearm or other weapon is securely encased or is otherwise not readily accessible for immediate use. Nothing herein contained prohibits the carrying of a legal firearm other than a handgun anywhere in a private conveyance when such firearm is being carried for a lawful use. Nothing herein contained shall be construed to authorize the carrying of a concealed firearm or other weapon on the person. This subsection shall be liberally construed in favor of the lawful use, ownership, and possession of firearms and other weapons, including lawful self-defense as provided in s. 776.012.

What can I say? I really bored! Have fun in the sunchine state! Watch the weather also, those big red blobs turn into swirly things over night!

Bunny · June 27th, 2009, 01:16 PM

Ok, I looked. It's a $130 difference between flying two people r/t from CLT to ORL, or renting a car and paying $2.70/gallon to drive the 8 hours there. (I'm not taking the Dog Hauler, it's a guzzler and we're not bringing the dogs.)

No need for rental car once we get there, so that's a non-issue.

How much of a hassle is it to fly with 2 firearms? Seriously, do they end up getting "lost" a lot, have any of you had major issues with this? I can grab ammo in FL, so not worried about that. What do you think? Bite the bullet and fly, or save the $$ and drive?

Or not go at all and buy another gun instead? (Looking at a Glock to add to the family.)

rmodel65 · June 27th, 2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by goldshellback

Georgia and Flordia both consider your car as an extension of your home (castle doct.). Your side arms just have to be 'encased'. In a holster tucked within the glove box, center console, etc.

Enjoy the trip!

this is not true, he is not eligible for a GA permit(since he isnt a resident) and does not have a NC(which would allow him to carry here)

the only way for him to carry is in accordance with Federal transport laws.t or to openly carry(which according to case law is pretty much impossible)

PointnClick · June 27th, 2009, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bunny

How much of a hassle is it to fly with 2 firearms? Seriously, do they end up getting "lost" a lot, have any of you had major issues with this? I can grab ammo in FL, so not worried about that. What do you think? Bite the bullet and fly, or save the $$ and drive?

I had to fly to Michigan a couple months ago... here's a post I made about the airport check-in...

Quote:

I was anticipating hassles and anal probes at the airport, so I got there early... but I have to say, check-in went off without a hitch. I told the lady at the counter that I was traveling with a firearm, and she actually looked kinda surprised, like she had to think back to her training on what to do.

She asked me to unlock the case, I demonstrated that the weapon was indeed unloaded, and she stuck a red slip of paper in the case that said "Unloaded firearm"... she then told me to stand aside, my bag was handed off to a TSA official who took my bag to an X-ray machine. 2 minutes later, he gave me a thumbs up, and I was off to my gate.

On the return, the lady at the ticket counter again looked surprised, called over a supervisor, but we did the unloaded check and the red slip of paper, and this time, I did not have to wait for TSA... I proceeded directly to my gate.

So all in all, things went great... no hassles at the airport, I got my business concluded, got to see some old friends, and felt secure in the knowledge that I was armed in an unfamiliar, albeit probably very safe little town.

If your permit is valid in your destination state, don't be deterred from taking your weapon... from my experience, I think traveling with a dog or golf clubs would be a much bigger hassle...

FastDraw · June 27th, 2009, 04:02 PM

I agree with retsupt above........ I'd drive. NC to Orlando is a piece of cake. We drive from Colorado to FL yearly to visit family. That's a lot farther, but the fact is we both love road trips. Gun wise for us it's no problem... we both have permits that make us good to go the entire way.

Another reason for driving is I hate flying and airports. I did 30+ years of that in the corporate world. (I'm now retired)

Have a good trip........

nn · June 27th, 2009, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bunny

Going back to visit friends in a few weeks, won't have my CC permit by then. I know FL is NO OPEN CARRY, that's fine, my friends have their CCHP in FL. But we are thinking about a trip to the range, and Bunny Jr. and I want to bring our guns. Since we are driving down, is there a one-size-fits-all method to carry in the car throughout the entire road trip?

I was thinking two range bags in the trunk, one with guns (locked, empty, slides locked back) and the other one with the ammo. We have a minivan, so no actual "trunk" to speak of, but there is a cargo area in the back, behind the 3rd row of seats that I would keep both ammo bags in.

If I get pulled over, is this ok for NC/SC/GA/FL? I'd hate to pull over at each state line and rearrange stuff so I'm constantly shuffling in order to stay legal.

Ideas?

I wanted to just fly down there, but Heaven only knows what a pain in the butt THAT would be!

You got it right, except the slides do not have to be locked back.

Monkeytown · June 28th, 2009, 12:34 AM

This past week I flew to and from PHx with my firearm and had no problems. Just have the firearm unloaded in a lockable case and tell the ticket agent you are checking a firearm and they will instruct you on the rest. You can travel with ammo also, just make sure it is in it's original packaging (it does not need to be locked in the box with the gun).

Someone posted earlier that you need a TSA lock. That is not true. I have a hard plastic case and lock it with a small padlock I bought at Lowe's. I also lock my luggage after TSA has inspected it so noone can go in and remove the case. This was suggested by 2 TSA agents and a third asked for my key to look in the bag and had no problem with relocking the bag after he was done.

One thing I did learn this week is to remove the magazine from the gun when packing it. This was my 4th trip with my pistol and the first I was told to leave the mag out. I will do so from now on.

All in all it's really not a bad experience and my nerves have calmed the more I've done it. IT is funny in a loud airport when you try to tell the agent discretely that you are checking a firearm and you have to repeat twice and loud the last time. It tends to turn some heads.

Whatever you decide to do good luck and be safe!
MT

June 27th, 2009, 12:08 PM	#11
schwaa Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 101	Florida Heres the florida statutes as they relate to concealed carry within a car without a permit. ----------------------- Definitions (16) "Readily accessible for immediate use" means that a firearm or other weapon is carried on the person or within such close proximity and in such a manner that it can be retrieved and used as easily and quickly as if carried on the person. (17) "Securely encased" means in a glove compartment, whether or not locked; snapped in a holster; in a gun case, whether or not locked; in a zippered gun case; or in a closed box or container which requires a lid or cover to be opened for access. -------------- 790.25 Lawful ownership, possession, and use of firearms and other weapons (3) LAWFUL USES.--The provisions of ss. 790.053 and 790.06 do not apply in the following instances, and, despite such sections, it is lawful for the following persons to own, possess, and lawfully use firearms and other weapons, ammunition, and supplies for lawful purposes: (j) A person firing weapons for testing or target practice under safe conditions and in a safe place not prohibited by law or going to or from such place; (l) A person traveling by private conveyance when the weapon is securely encased or in a public conveyance when the weapon is securely encased and not in the person's manual possession; ------------------- 5) POSSESSION IN PRIVATE CONVEYANCE.--Notwithstanding subsection (2), it is lawful and is not a violation of s. 790.01 for a person 18 years of age or older to possess a concealed firearm or other weapon for self-defense or other lawful purpose within the interior of a private conveyance, without a license, if the firearm or other weapon is securely encased or is otherwise not readily accessible for immediate use. Nothing herein contained prohibits the carrying of a legal firearm other than a handgun anywhere in a private conveyance when such firearm is being carried for a lawful use. Nothing herein contained shall be construed to authorize the carrying of a concealed firearm or other weapon on the person. This subsection shall be liberally construed in favor of the lawful use, ownership, and possession of firearms and other weapons, including lawful self-defense as provided in s. 776.012. What can I say? I really bored! Have fun in the sunchine state! Watch the weather also, those big red blobs turn into swirly things over night! __________________ It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

June 27th, 2009, 01:16 PM	#12
Bunny Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North Carolina - LKN Posts: 1,198	Ok, I looked. It's a $130 difference between flying two people r/t from CLT to ORL, or renting a car and paying $2.70/gallon to drive the 8 hours there. (I'm not taking the Dog Hauler, it's a guzzler and we're not bringing the dogs.) No need for rental car once we get there, so that's a non-issue. How much of a hassle is it to fly with 2 firearms? Seriously, do they end up getting "lost" a lot, have any of you had major issues with this? I can grab ammo in FL, so not worried about that. What do you think? Bite the bullet and fly, or save the $$ and drive? Or not go at all and buy another gun instead? (Looking at a Glock to add to the family.) __________________ Don't frisk me, I am the weapon. Sig Sauer P239 DAK (9mm) NRA Member & Pistol Instructor www.vanguardnc.com

June 27th, 2009, 04:02 PM	#15
FastDraw Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Out West Posts: 370	I agree with retsupt above........ I'd drive. NC to Orlando is a piece of cake. We drive from Colorado to FL yearly to visit family. That's a lot farther, but the fact is we both love road trips. Gun wise for us it's no problem... we both have permits that make us good to go the entire way. Another reason for driving is I hate flying and airports. I did 30+ years of that in the corporate world. (I'm now retired) Have a good trip........ __________________ Be Alert and Stay Safe FastDraw

June 28th, 2009, 12:34 AM	#17
Monkeytown Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 178	This past week I flew to and from PHx with my firearm and had no problems. Just have the firearm unloaded in a lockable case and tell the ticket agent you are checking a firearm and they will instruct you on the rest. You can travel with ammo also, just make sure it is in it's original packaging (it does not need to be locked in the box with the gun). Someone posted earlier that you need a TSA lock. That is not true. I have a hard plastic case and lock it with a small padlock I bought at Lowe's. I also lock my luggage after TSA has inspected it so noone can go in and remove the case. This was suggested by 2 TSA agents and a third asked for my key to look in the bag and had no problem with relocking the bag after he was done. One thing I did learn this week is to remove the magazine from the gun when packing it. This was my 4th trip with my pistol and the first I was told to leave the mag out. I will do so from now on. All in all it's really not a bad experience and my nerves have calmed the more I've done it. IT is funny in a loud airport when you try to tell the agent discretely that you are checking a firearm and you have to repeat twice and loud the last time. It tends to turn some heads. Whatever you decide to do good luck and be safe! MT __________________ "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." Benjamin Franklin Steps in the stripping of State's Rights/Sovereignty 1. War of Northern Agression 2. Coersion to ratify the 14th Amendment 3. Ratified 17th Amendment

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