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Oddjob · July 8th, 2009, 12:56 AM

my bosses are ok with carrying, just not during work hours

Oldskoolfan · July 8th, 2009, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SamRudolph

I can see this being valid if the likelihood of him being attacked
is high.

Which it probably isn't.

The logical thing to do is to weigh the likelihood of being attacked against the likelihood of being caught and the severity of the likely consequences.

If you drive taxis in Los Angeles, Miami, or New York, sure, I'd probably carry a gun, regardless of local law and company policy. Because the odds of being detected are fairly low, and the likelihood of being attacked is pretty high.

If you work in a secured office building in a relatively low-crime area and are not the target of a specific threat, I probably wouldn't, since the apparent likelihood of being caught and fired, thus depriving my family and me of our livelihood, is higher than a secured office building being attacked by terrorists.

I am sure the people at Columbine, Virginia Tech, and the Utah mall all thought the same thing as a gunman decided to murder them. Why risk it? I mean leaving your gun at home could get you killed. Actually it will get you killed.

Oldskoolfan · July 8th, 2009, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Stirling XD

I am looking for a job. I don't plan on asking that question in an interview. I will read the employee handbook and then make a decision. I never know how someone will react to such a question.

What if the handbook says no concealed carry? Then the decision is made for you, isn't it?

Billy Ng · July 8th, 2009, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SamRudolph

If you work in a secured office building in a relatively low-crime area and are not the target of a specific threat, I probably wouldn't, since the apparent likelihood of being caught and fired, thus depriving my family and me of our livelihood, is higher than a secured office building being attacked by terrorists.

Talk to John McLain before you rush to judgement like that.

Buckley · July 8th, 2009, 11:21 AM

I wouldn't take a job unless I could carry. I quit a job once when they issued a policy against it, and left the same day. I'm not willing to give up any civil right for a job.

In fact, concealed carry is encouraged in my office now. I train everyone personally.

SamRudolph · July 8th, 2009, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldskoolfan

I am sure the people at Columbine, Virginia Tech, and the Utah mall all thought the same thing as a gunman decided to murder them. Why risk it? I mean leaving your gun at home could get you killed. Actually it will get you killed.

That's utterly irrational. By that logic everyone who doesn't have a gun on them at work is destined to be murdered.

The reason people would "risk it" is that the odds against being involved in an active shooter massacre like that are slim to none, whereas the odds of being caught and losing your job or being expelled are a bit higher.

Oldskoolfan · July 8th, 2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SamRudolph

That's utterly irrational. By that logic everyone who doesn't have a gun on them at work is destined to be murdered.

The reason people would "risk it" is that the odds against being involved in an active shooter massacre like that are slim to none, whereas the odds of being caught and losing your job or being expelled are a bit higher.

It will get you killed when a crazy gunman or terrorist decides to come into your place of business.

The odds are you will never need a gun, so why go through the trouble of carrying one?

AZ Desertrat · July 8th, 2009, 06:20 PM

CCW never was an issue at any of my jobs, however I now work as a civilian for State law enforcement, and even if we have a CCW we are not allowed to carry on premises.

h8red00 · July 9th, 2009, 05:13 PM

I always carry unless it is illegal for me to. Boss wont know unless I have to pull it out and fire, and If i get fired because I had to shoot some nutcase that came to my work place with a 12 ga or AK than so be it. That is if I didn't already duck out the fire exit when i first heard gunshots...

Oldskoolfan · July 9th, 2009, 05:27 PM

Is it ok to break our words and office rules so we can protect others?

View Poll Results: If you was looking for a new Job, Would you....
Ask about CC right away?	5	4.27%
Wait to see if you have the job first?	33	28.21%
Wouldn't care either way,.. ??	59	50.43%
Other... Please explain?	20	17.09%
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July 8th, 2009, 12:56 AM	#61
Oddjob Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: MN Posts: 24	my bosses are ok with carrying, just not during work hours __________________ failure to plan on YOUR part dose not constitute an emergency on MY part. Last edited by Captain Crunch; July 8th, 2009 at 01:37 AM.. Reason: Removed unnecessary comment.

July 8th, 2009, 06:20 PM	#68
AZ Desertrat Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tolleson, AZ Posts: 287	CCW never was an issue at any of my jobs, however I now work as a civilian for State law enforcement, and even if we have a CCW we are not allowed to carry on premises. __________________ "Never advance cheerfully on your late opponent without reloading. You may have used your last round, and he may not be properly dead and still spiteful." Major Hugh Pollard, 1920 Glock 19, 20. FNP9, Taurus 85UL, Beretta 92 S&W M29, 60, 66, 686, 10, 36, 40, 42, 64, Ruger Single Six

July 9th, 2009, 05:13 PM	#69
h8red00 Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sebastian County Arkansas Posts: 108	... I always carry unless it is illegal for me to. Boss wont know unless I have to pull it out and fire, and If i get fired because I had to shoot some nutcase that came to my work place with a 12 ga or AK than so be it. That is if I didn't already duck out the fire exit when i first heard gunshots... __________________ *Kel-Tec P3AT "the go anywhere gun"Kel-Tec PF9-S&W 442 38 spl-Walther P99 40s&w-"ALWAYS carry! -NEVERtell!" Thumper* Romans 9:21~Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

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July 8th, 2009, 11:21 AM	#65
Buckley Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Fort Myers, Florida Posts: 36	I wouldn't take a job unless I could carry. I quit a job once when they issued a policy against it, and left the same day. I'm not willing to give up any civil right for a job. In fact, concealed carry is encouraged in my office now. I train everyone personally.

July 9th, 2009, 05:27 PM	#70
Oldskoolfan Ex Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In a secured zone. Posts: 467	Is it ok to break our words and office rules so we can protect others?