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Old September 11th, 2009, 05:29 PM   #11
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Gun in an enclosed "container" so that no part of the gun is visible. A zip up gun bag is acceptable. Magazines may be loaded and the storage of them for transport is NOT regulated as long as they are not IN the gun. Loaded mags may be in the same container as the gun, just not in the gun.

RXtion gave the correct answer.
Unloaded and in a case.
The case does not have to be locking but it has to have some type of method for securing it closed, ie, zipper, snap, buckle, tie, velcro, etc. The case has to completely enclose the gun with no portion of the gun outside the case.
A case is defined by statute as "a container specifically designed for the purpose of housing a gun or bow and arrow device which completely encloses such gun or bow and arrow device by being zipped, snapped, buckled, tied, or otherwise fastened with no portion of the gun or bow and arrow device exposed."
Ammo can be in the same case as the gun. Mags can be loaded but just not inserted in the gun. Empty mags can be in the gun.
You are correct concerning FOID. As a non-resident you are not required to have a FOID and you cannot get a FOID. FOID only applies to IL residents.
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Old September 11th, 2009, 05:33 PM   #12
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Gun in an enclosed "container" so that no part of the gun is visible. A zip up gun bag is acceptable. Magazines may be loaded and the storage of them for transport is NOT regulated as long as they are not IN the gun. Loaded mags may be in the same container as the gun, just not in the gun.

Yeah, it sucks pretty hard!
Thank you for the clarification. I did not see it on the ISP webpage (may be there, I just didn't see it). I have never wanted to take chances in while passing through IL.
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Old September 11th, 2009, 05:43 PM   #13
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Thank you for the clarification. I did not see it on the ISP webpage (may be there, I just didn't see it). I have never wanted to take chances in while passing through IL.
same here.... thanks for the info....
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Old September 11th, 2009, 09:57 PM   #14
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It is on the ISP website somewhere, though I am not sure how to actually find it. After doing a quick search of the ISP site I can't seem to find it readily accesible. However it is linked to on illinoiscarry.org.

Here is the link. I suggest you folks who travel through Illinois print this out and keep a copy in your vehicle. Many people in this state are ignorant of this law. I had a range master at the bass pro shop firing range in Gurnee IL tell me I couldn't have loaded magazines in the case with my gun and I'm sure many LEO don't know this as well.

http://www.isp.state.il.us/docs/1-154.pdf

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Illinois law requires residents possessing ammunition have a valid FOID card. The location of ammunition being transported, including ammunition being transported in loaded magazines, is not regulated if the firearm is possessed or transported lawfully.
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Old September 11th, 2009, 11:43 PM   #15
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RXtion is batting 1000%. Got the right .pdf brochure.
There's a link floating around the internet that is for the brochure that was printed in 1998. It's a bit different and no longer available but sometimes I'll see where people will refer to it.
Here's a FAQ on the ISP's website that also answers your transportation questions.
http://www.isp.state.il.us/foid/firearmsfaq.cfm
Before you get too worried about the non-resident question and the answer where it is "recommended" the firearm "Not immediately accessible or broken down in a nonfunctioning state." That phrase was included so a person would be covered by the federal FOPA. It's not required by IL statute but is the wording from FOPA.
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Old September 12th, 2009, 01:37 PM   #16
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It is on the ISP website somewhere, though I am not sure how to actually find it. After doing a quick search of the ISP site I can't seem to find it readily accesible. However it is linked to on illinoiscarry.org.

Here is the link. I suggest you folks who travel through Illinois print this out and keep a copy in your vehicle. Many people in this state are ignorant of this law. I had a range master at the bass pro shop firing range in Gurnee IL tell me I couldn't have loaded magazines in the case with my gun and I'm sure many LEO don't know this as well.

http://www.isp.state.il.us/docs/1-154.pdf
Thanks a million. I live in Lafayette, TN (KY Border) and my son and 3 of my grandchildren live in Dardennes Prairie, MO. The best route there is through Illinois and I travel that route 4-5 times a year. I have a pistol safe in trunk of car and I have downloaded and laminated the above brochure and will have it in gun safe with EDC when crossing the Peoples' Republic of Illinois!
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Old September 12th, 2009, 03:37 PM   #17
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ispcapt and RXtion got it nailed down. Put the weapon in a case designed for that purpose and make sure it's totally enclosed. The ammo can be in mags as long as the mag isn't the weapon. Make sure there's no round in the chamber. As for those of you that got nothing more to say than Illinois sux. Illinois ain't perfect. The USA ain't perfect. It's where I live and it's ok for me to cuss it because I live here but don't, under any circumstances you can imagine, think it's forgivable for you, a foreigner, to do so.

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Old September 13th, 2009, 01:57 PM   #18
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It's where I live and it's ok for me to cuss it because I live here but don't, under any circumstances you can imagine, think it's forgivable for you, a foreigner, to do so.
First off, take a pill. I live close enough to Sillynoise that I can cuss it all I want. But I would think that you would realize we are not cussing you. We are actually cussing the State of Chicago.

I live 10 miles from your beloved state. I have to compromise my safety because my proximity requires me to cross that line for work purposes.

So I will continue to cuss your state until they make my life safer by allowing me to protect myself and make other lives safer by ridding itself of dual speed limits.

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Old September 13th, 2009, 03:30 PM   #19
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Illinois ain't perfect. The USA ain't perfect. It's where I live and it's ok for me to cuss it because I live here but don't, under any circumstances you can imagine, think it's forgivable for you, a foreigner, to do so.
Humm, Last time I checked, It's called America, and we all live here. Because of that, we're free to speak about what ever we give a hoot about. If there's a state in the America that denies the right for it's citizens to bear arms, I say again, it must sux to live in that state. Seeings how there's only two, I'd say most of America would agree.
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ispcapt and RXtion got it nailed down. Put the weapon in a case designed for that purpose and make sure it's totally enclosed. The ammo can be in mags as long as the mag isn't the weapon. Make sure there's no round in the chamber. As for those of you that got nothing more to say than Illinois sux. Illinois ain't perfect. The USA ain't perfect. It's where I live and it's ok for me to cuss it because I live here but don't, under any circumstances you can imagine, think it's forgivable for you, a foreigner, to do so.
I cuss Ill-annoy almost weekly and I have to agree, it sux to go there.. I have siblings there and I have to disarm to visit them. Its rediculous.There probably hasn't been a time I havent cussed outloud evertime I cross that bridge and have to unload my gun and put it in a case..
Going from here to Missouri , I have to disarm for literally 1 minute because of crossing the tip of Illinois. IT SUX.
I can understand you not caring for people to dis your state, and if you're happy living there, thats fine. But you're on a gun forum and we understand our rights.
I can go hundreds of miles in any direction and not have to disarm........ Except NORTH.......
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