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Location: Deep Southern Illinois
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Let me see if I can put this gently. If you choose to run instead of fight you got no stake in the battle. The "I live somewhere else so I'm really impressed with me" argument don't get you no attaboys. If you're not trying to do anything about the problem you don't have the right to complain. I've been trying to get this changed for longer than some of you've been alive. If you don't like it here, don't come. Instead of lettin' your fingers do the talkin' drive around or fly over. I'd be a whole lot more impressed with your rhetoric.
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Location: West TN
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I was born and raised in Indiana, 30 miles from the IL state line, or as my Dad used to call it, the free/communist demarkation line. I have been to the state many, many times. We now live in SouthWest Tennessee, with family still right there 30 miles from the IL line right off I-70. The fastest way to visit is to drive up and through Illinois. But we do not go that way. We add an hour to the trip by going up I-40 to Nashville and then I-65 up to Indiana. We do not go through or near Illinois. I will not travel through or spend one single penny of my hard earned money in a state that keeps me from being able to protect my family or its own residents from doing the same. Sorry bud, you may live there and I not, but Illinois still sucks pretty bad. Just because you live there and we do not, that does not change the fact that the state you have chossen to live in is a good place. The site would not be better off with anyone just because they don't like a state that treats its residents like idiots who can't be trusted with their own lives, freedom and safety!
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Location: St. Louis, MO
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You seem to think it is just the gun laws that I cared about. It was the taxes, the smoking bans, the taxes, the gun laws, court system, oh and did I mention the taxes. Not to mention the entire state is run by Chicago's most corrupt politicians. Trust me, it wasn't just the oppresive and draconian gun laws that drove me from that state.
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Location: Waponi Woo
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For all those who are taking about going through Illinois to other states, remember that Ohio does not let one have loaded magazines any where in the vehicle unless you have an Ohio CHL. Loaded mags==loaded gun. Yep. Stupid but at least there is a definitive definition to go by now. So, if you are through Ohio and Illinois, unload those mags.
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Location: Central Florida
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You have your advice about IL...for me, I stay our of IL, and I have driven AROUND that state to avoid it...
![]() Is it a PITA, most definitely, but my principles don't allow me to cross that state line. ![]()
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Location: Rocky River, Ohio
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The last couple of years, I've gone hunting on my best friend's family farm near Pacific, Missouri. I carry all the way from Cleveland to the Indiana-Illinois border. I then have to stop and disarm. We then continue on to St. Louis (spending NO money in Illinois) where I rearm. Illinois, and especially Chicago are the way they are because the people either LIKE it that way, or don't care. In Chicago, it's mostly the former. I had no more duty to be oppressed in Illinois for the last twenty some odd years instead of moving to Ohio than any German Jew had to stick around to see what was going to happen next. Illinois is corrupt to its very core, gun control only being one of a VAST array of examples. My living there and being a victim of that corruption wouldn't have done ANYTHING... other than putting money in Daley's, Ryan's and Blagojevic's pockets.
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Location: Rocky River, Ohio
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Location: Deep Southern Illinois
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I don't understand the mentality that makes some of you feel proud of avoiding the issue instead of addressing it. Maybe that makes me an antique with outdated values. If that's the case then so be it. Just remember. If this state ever does see the light it wasn't by your effort. I'm going to stay and work to change it. You're going to sit on the sidelines and Monday Morning Quarterback.
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Location: The Old Dominion
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Back on topic please. The question was on how to legally transport, not whether or not IL has good or bad gun laws or to insult each other about IL gun laws.
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