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Old September 12th, 2009, 12:51 PM   #11
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400.00 Subsection 7.

7. License: form. Any license issued pursuant to this section shall,
except in the city of New York, be approved as to form by the
superintendent of state police. A license to carry or possess a pistol
or revolver shall have attached the licensee`s photograph, and a coupon
which shall be removed and retained by any person disposing of a firearm
to the licensee. Such license shall specify the weapon covered by
calibre, make, model, manufacturer`s name and serial number, or if none,
by any other distinguishing number or identification mark, and shall
indicate whether issued to carry on the person or possess on the
premises, and if on the premises shall also specify the place where the
licensee shall possess the same. If such license is issued to an alien,
or to a person not a citizen of and usually a resident in the state,
the
licensing officer shall state in the license the particular reason for
the issuance and the names of the persons certifying to the good
character of the applicant.....

Well...any lawyers out there....looks like non-resident to me...
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Old September 12th, 2009, 01:39 PM   #12
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NYS non resident pistol permit

I know Canadian IPSIC shooters participate in matches in Western New York Combat Pistol League. I assume they must have a permit . Anyone know for sure ?
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Old September 12th, 2009, 02:15 PM   #13
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I does sound like an urban legend, but I trust the guy. He is a long time family friend who went to high school and college with my father.

If I have time next time I'm up there ill stop by and find out more.

A lot of people in upstate/western NY have been hoping for that split for a long time. It just makes sense. The needs of the two areas are polar opposites.
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Old September 12th, 2009, 02:23 PM   #14
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NO! You are 100% incorrect.

Getting a Pistol License in NY State by Orange County NY Shooters

NY Penal Law

Thank God I no longer live in NY.


you and me both.
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Old September 12th, 2009, 03:53 PM   #15
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I know Canadian IPSIC shooters participate in matches in Western New York Combat Pistol League. I assume they must have a permit . Anyone know for sure ?
"Non-resident target shooters may enter or pass through New York State with handguns for the purposes of any NRA approved competition if the competitor has in his possession a copy of the match program, proof of entry and a pistol license from his state of residence. The handgun must be unloaded and transported in a locked opaque container."http://www.nysrpa.org/nygunlaws.htm

Presumably, the Canadian Restricted Possession and Acquisition Licence would suffice.
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Old September 13th, 2009, 10:44 AM   #16
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From Bach v. Pataki(2004):

However, as a nonresident without New York State employment, Bach is not eligible for a New York firearms license. The State Police informed Bach that "no exemption exists which would enable [him] to possess a handgun in New York State" and that "[t]here are no provisions for the issuance of a carry permit, temporary or otherwise, to anyone not a permanent resident of New York State nor does New York State recognize pistol permits issued by other states." The State Police further explained that persons "who maintain seasonal residen[ce] in New York State likewise are not eligible for a New York State Pistol Permit" and warned Bach that if he were found in possession of his pistol in New York he "would be subject to automatic forfeiture of the firearm in question and criminal prosecution."
Looks like I'm 50% right. The seasonal home doesn't matter, but the employment does.
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Old September 13th, 2009, 02:22 PM   #17
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To those who are also on other forums....maybe you can post a similar question...if it were true, it would set a precedent and maybe help our cause....post anything back here under this Thread...thnx
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Old November 6th, 2009, 05:02 PM   #18
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Connecticut CCW holder - works in NYC

OK, I am new to this forum because I specifically want to work my way from CT CCW holder through to NYS and NYC permit holder. I live in Stamford but work on Wall St. So my trip to work (commuting by car) takes me all of 10 minutes to reach the NYS border whereupon I am now left unarmed all the way to my place of work. Now, through this entire trip, common sense and crime rate statistics says that I have very little likelihood of needing my SP-101 for those short ten minutes and a ridiculously much higher chance of needing it for the other 50 minutes plus the time spent at my place of employment.

So how do I get a NYS out of state CCW permit? As a non-resident, are you all telling me that I can't even take my long gun up to Lake George when hunting with some friends?

I immigrated from Australia, so I am HIGHLY motivated to work this through to completion.
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OK, I am new to this forum because I specifically want to work my way from CT CCW holder through to NYS and NYC permit holder. I live in Stamford but work on Wall St. So my trip to work (commuting by car) takes me all of 10 minutes to reach the NYS border whereupon I am now left unarmed all the way to my place of work. Now, through this entire trip, common sense and crime rate statistics says that I have very little likelihood of needing my SP-101 for those short ten minutes and a ridiculously much higher chance of needing it for the other 50 minutes plus the time spent at my place of employment.

So how do I get a NYS out of state CCW permit? As a non-resident, are you all telling me that I can't even take my long gun up to Lake George when hunting with some friends?

I immigrated from Australia, so I am HIGHLY motivated to work this through to completion.
There's probably an exception for hunting, provided everything is transported properly to and from hunting(ammo, gun locked in trunk), but I'm not positive, as NY has several different permits(full carry, premisis,exc.). Also, keep in mind NY state and NY city are separate entities for pistol permits. A NY state permit is NOT good in the city.
A non-resident CAN apply for a NYC license, but it's a lot of time,money, and very very difficult to get. A buisness permit(carry at your work only) may be possible in which case you could legally transport(in the trunk) to and from work.
Check handgunlaw.us, NY (city and state) is a mess when it comes to carry.
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