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Old October 14th, 2009, 05:31 PM   #51
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Here's to a bottle of Glenlivits for MitchellCT
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Old October 14th, 2009, 05:32 PM   #52
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I recently found this but I have no idea if they are reputable. Has anyone dealt with them?
My problem with this service is the statement

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CHLPP does not provide coverage for related civil lawsuit legal expenses.
As I posted earlier, that's the main problem, here in Virginia.
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Old October 14th, 2009, 05:37 PM   #53
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GLENFIDDICH

Not Glenlivet

GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH

or Balvenie...
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I believe the NRA legal insurance is only for a criminal defense in a justifiable self-defense, and costs around $150/yr. I don't know how to insure against the civil aftermath. The $5000 from membership in ACLDN is a good start, perhaps. The access to local attorneys which you can vet is a plus also.

If I could afford it I could spell it...can you say Chivas?
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Old October 14th, 2009, 05:45 PM   #55
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So the insurance would be pointless in Texas?
Umbrella insurance is good on many levels and it is relatively cheap (I just got a $1 million policy for something like $140 a year) but those of you in states with strong castle doctine laws with the "no litigation" language shouldn't be needing it for a self defense civil matter. However, it is still a smart buy for many other reasons. If anyone wants to read a typical umbrella policy before contacting an agent just let me know and I will post one from Erie.

By the way, I am not an insurance agent or related to that industry in any way. I just happen to have updated all of my policies in the last few weeks and I looked at all of the policies (and asked many questions of my agent) from a gun owners perspective.
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GLENFIDDICH

Not Glenlivet

GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH

or Balvenie...
OTOH -- I have a few bottles of pre-'89 Dallas Dhu still squirreled away, if you're ever down this way.
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GLENFIDDICH

Not Glenlivet

GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH GLENFIDDICH

or Balvenie...
Damm ... you can't even be nice when someone offers to buy you a bottle of scotch.
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Old October 14th, 2009, 05:50 PM   #58
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Umbrella insurance is good on many levels and it is relatively cheap....
Did you check it for an exclusion of deliberate acts resulting in a claim, or legese of that sort?
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Did you check it for an exclusion of deliberate acts resulting in a claim, or legese of that sort?
I sure did. The legalese that had me question (as you did) was in their "What We Do Not Cover - Exclusions" section item 2. (I tried to upload the pdf of the policy for all but it was larger than the DC file size limit so if you want it PM me). I followed up and asked my agent to clarify this in writing and his reply (as excerpted from an email) is as follows:

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So the policy states,”We do NOT cover personal injury or property damage expected or intended by anyone we protect.” In other words they will NOT cover any actions taken by someone else against you or your family as a result of an action previously made by you or your family (If you hit someone and they hit you back then open a suit against you, you are not covered because of the first action). It also states, “We do cover reasonable acts committed to protect persons or property.” So they cover any reasonable acts you or your family take in order to protect yourselves and your property.

OK, so here is the deal. The policy will cover you in the case someone attempts to harm you, your family or your property and you take some form of lethal or non-lethal force to stop him or her and in turn they attempt to open a civil suit against you. Now this policy will NOT cover any property taken (Your homeowners would cover the property taken) and or personal injury incurred to yourself or your family. Even though the policy will cover you in the event this happens in civil court it does not help or cover any criminal judgments brought against you because of actions taken by you or your family.
Hope this helps.
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Gotta' agree.....

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What I DO know is that you cannot seem to discuss this issue without resorting to personal attacks and insults.

That tells me all I need to know about you. It also casts a shadow over everything you say.

Seems you cannot disagree without being disagreeable. Shame.

You don't know me, or my background. You are making assumptions.

Bye.
the guy (presumed) was rude and insulting from the outset. He has indicated that he is an either an alcoholic, or at the least a regular imbiber. Heck, I enjoy Scotch also, The Glenlivit Glenlivit Glenlivit in my case. However, other than my own mention for this caricaturized post, I find the Counselor's propensity toward publicizing his first year law school drinking exploits rather sophomoric, and cliche. Other than that I am very impressed with him.
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