Girlfriend Asked Me Why I Carry...10 o'clock News Tells Her Why - Page 2

beaker · October 27th, 2009, 05:37 AM

my wife changed her mind very quickly when i told her the same thing. my gun is my life insurance and my house insurance. basically told her the same thing mike said up there. i love her and her life means more to me then she might think. thats all it took.. she's been hooked ever since.

fwellers · October 27th, 2009, 07:24 AM

Hey Nova,
I remember that Lansdowne incident. It put some fear in me. I live in a subdivision just 5 miles from there, and even closer to the hispanic gangs of sterling. Each time I open my garage door during the dark hours, I wish I was carrying.
I really don't know how to carry at home yet, since my wife has issues with that. I may just take the extra time to open my car door and put the car gun in my pocket before opening the garage door at night and mornings.

retsupt99 · October 27th, 2009, 07:46 AM

Through the me harping, the news reporting, and a bad experience in a high rise parking lot...my wife became a believer, but it took many years...she's there NOW.

To the OP...
Keep giving her those news reports.

TravisABQ · October 27th, 2009, 09:00 AM

My own theory is that a lot of people cannot allow themselves to think about danger in the world, because since they have never been in a life threatening situation, lethal danger is theoretical, almost mythical. Something which happens to "other people", in the "wrong neighborhood", or to people who "bring it on themselves".

To think about danger seriously, is to make it real, and realize how truly unequipped they are.

torgo1968 · October 27th, 2009, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by swatspyder

Just ask her why you have life, home, dental, car insurance. Then when she responds in case something happens, fire, accident, cavity, death, we are prepared. Then you can look at her and say, the gun is our health insurance.

Exactly. I don't put my seat belt on expecting to get in a car accident every time I hit the road. I'm pretty sure my house isn't going to burst into flames, but I have fire extinguishers. If I had to bet, I'd put a up a good amount that I'll never fire my gun in anger, and that's great. But no harm will be done having it there and not needing it.

64zebra · October 27th, 2009, 10:49 AM

keep feeding/showing her news stories
and get her here....search for VA Armed Citizen stories
NRA-ILA ::

edr9x23super · October 27th, 2009, 11:00 AM

Nothing like the power of positive reinforcement, I say.....

itsatoolbox · October 27th, 2009, 11:11 AM

I'm glad that timing came through for you on that conversation! Eventually it will work out, and if it only results in her accepting that you have a good reason to think how you do, thats better than having to hide your beliefs and actions from her.

After reading through the news story, I am admittedly a little surprised by where the suspects are from...having been going to these places for over a decade, it really raised an eyebrow. I know Annandale has issues, but its still an upper middle-class suburb. Stirling is one of the "uppity" shopping meccas of the far western suburbs (again I know there are developing issues there). But Middleburg?! Its a rural horse-breeding town that is primarily surrounded with multi-million dollar equestrian estates and their slightly snooty occupants (no offense to anyone who might be from there, its a great area). I'd expect the worst criminals from that area would be guilty of SEC violations, or maybe cheating on the pedigree papers for their horses, not being an accomplice to Capitol Murder.

I always assume that anything could happen anywhere, and that it could be done by anyone of any kind...but apparently that is far more true that I previously thought.

Thanks for helping remind me of how bad NoVa is getting, and good luck on educating your GF!

BlueNinjaGo · October 27th, 2009, 11:25 AM

I'm going through the same kind of deal with my girlfriend. She was never against me getting a gun and eventually my CHL when I'm able to, but she is against carrying one herself. She carries pepper spray and may carry a stun gun if/when I get her one, but she's against carrying a gun. She won't really say why.

Anyways, there's few things I've picked up.

1) Watch the local news together. You've already started doing this, which is good, but keep it up. She'll see it's not an isolated incident. Also, read the newspaper. You can't make her read it, but you can read it, find stories that support your argument, and give her the brief version of what happened.

2) Take her to the gun range, and teach her about firearms and firearm safety. People are naturally scared of what they do not know. Especially when they get the majority of their firearm knowledge from movies and media outlets. The more comfortable she becomes with them, the better off you both will be.

This has been working pretty well for me so far, but still need a little bit more to get her to carry.

Oldskoolfan · October 27th, 2009, 02:36 PM

Bad logic to compare it to health insurance. If someone says this to me and they are not in good physical health I am going to ask why they are not as concerned with the more likely killer of diabetes or cancer? Or if they smoke? Or drink?

Not to mention using that logic they would have fire extuinguishers with them at all times.

October 27th, 2009, 07:46 AM	#13
retsupt99 VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 22,720	Through the me harping, the news reporting, and a bad experience in a high rise parking lot...my wife became a believer, but it took many years...she's there NOW. To the OP... Keep giving her those news reports. __________________ "That I cannot do." "Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks." *********************************** NRA Life Member

October 27th, 2009, 10:49 AM	#16
64zebra VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Panhandle of Texas Posts: 4,566	keep feeding/showing her news stories and get her here....search for VA Armed Citizen stories NRA-ILA :: __________________ LEO & CHL Independence is declared; it must be maintained. Sam Houston-3/2/1836 HK45 G30\|21\|26\|17 KT P11 Moss500 Ithaca37 Savage20ga\|15A .22\|'99 25-35 AK47 AR15 Win3030 MN44 Rem 66\|870 GMBH67.22 If loose gun laws are good for criminals, why do criminals support gun control?

October 27th, 2009, 11:00 AM	#17
edr9x23super Distinguished Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,733	Nothing like the power of positive reinforcement, I say..... __________________ "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined". - Patrick Henry

October 27th, 2009, 11:25 AM	#19
BlueNinjaGo Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 260	I'm going through the same kind of deal with my girlfriend. She was never against me getting a gun and eventually my CHL when I'm able to, but she is against carrying one herself. She carries pepper spray and may carry a stun gun if/when I get her one, but she's against carrying a gun. She won't really say why. Anyways, there's few things I've picked up. 1) Watch the local news together. You've already started doing this, which is good, but keep it up. She'll see it's not an isolated incident. Also, read the newspaper. You can't make her read it, but you can read it, find stories that support your argument, and give her the brief version of what happened. 2) Take her to the gun range, and teach her about firearms and firearm safety. People are naturally scared of what they do not know. Especially when they get the majority of their firearm knowledge from movies and media outlets. The more comfortable she becomes with them, the better off you both will be. This has been working pretty well for me so far, but still need a little bit more to get her to carry. __________________ Bersa Thunder .380 cc Springfield XD 9mm sc

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October 27th, 2009, 05:37 AM	#11
beaker Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NW FL Posts: 21	my wife changed her mind very quickly when i told her the same thing. my gun is my life insurance and my house insurance. basically told her the same thing mike said up there. i love her and her life means more to me then she might think. thats all it took.. she's been hooked ever since.

October 27th, 2009, 07:24 AM	#12
fwellers Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 66	Hey Nova, I remember that Lansdowne incident. It put some fear in me. I live in a subdivision just 5 miles from there, and even closer to the hispanic gangs of sterling. Each time I open my garage door during the dark hours, I wish I was carrying. I really don't know how to carry at home yet, since my wife has issues with that. I may just take the extra time to open my car door and put the car gun in my pocket before opening the garage door at night and mornings.

October 27th, 2009, 09:00 AM	#14
TravisABQ Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Mexico Posts: 400	My own theory is that a lot of people cannot allow themselves to think about danger in the world, because since they have never been in a life threatening situation, lethal danger is theoretical, almost mythical. Something which happens to "other people", in the "wrong neighborhood", or to people who "bring it on themselves". To think about danger seriously, is to make it real, and realize how truly unequipped they are.

October 27th, 2009, 11:11 AM	#18
itsatoolbox Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 28	I'm glad that timing came through for you on that conversation! Eventually it will work out, and if it only results in her accepting that you have a good reason to think how you do, thats better than having to hide your beliefs and actions from her. After reading through the news story, I am admittedly a little surprised by where the suspects are from...having been going to these places for over a decade, it really raised an eyebrow. I know Annandale has issues, but its still an upper middle-class suburb. Stirling is one of the "uppity" shopping meccas of the far western suburbs (again I know there are developing issues there). But Middleburg?! Its a rural horse-breeding town that is primarily surrounded with multi-million dollar equestrian estates and their slightly snooty occupants (no offense to anyone who might be from there, its a great area). I'd expect the worst criminals from that area would be guilty of SEC violations, or maybe cheating on the pedigree papers for their horses, not being an accomplice to Capitol Murder. I always assume that anything could happen anywhere, and that it could be done by anyone of any kind...but apparently that is far more true that I previously thought. Thanks for helping remind me of how bad NoVa is getting, and good luck on educating your GF!

October 27th, 2009, 02:36 PM	#20
Oldskoolfan Ex Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In a secured zone. Posts: 467	Bad logic to compare it to health insurance. If someone says this to me and they are not in good physical health I am going to ask why they are not as concerned with the more likely killer of diabetes or cancer? Or if they smoke? Or drink? Not to mention using that logic they would have fire extuinguishers with them at all times.