On Your Own Property. - Page 2

kspilot536 · October 27th, 2009, 04:54 PM

So..if I do not have my yard fenced or gated,that means the public who EVER they are can roam through my yard,play football on the 9000 dollar turf,set up volleyball nets and have a game,because it's not private until it's fenced?
That ain't happening on my yard...I don't care what state it's in!

Ram Rod · October 27th, 2009, 05:43 PM

Here it's legal for me to carry openly on my own property. That's not to say any passerby won't call the local gendarmes about your 'threatening manner' though. Silly actually.....but if you sit on your own front porch drinking a can of beer openly, then it might violate some silly ordinance. Out in the county, we can pretty much do what we want to within reason and have no problems.

retsupt99 · October 27th, 2009, 05:59 PM

Walking about on my own property may be legal, but in a sub you may alarm neighbors...on a few acres it wouldn't be much cause for alarm.
Why stir the neighbors?

Anubis · October 27th, 2009, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kspilot536

Here in Wichita they have an ordinance that there will be NO open carry,the state though allows OC.
But what im getting at is the ordinance I think says that there shall be no OC in public ..my land is NOT public..is it?

Can you show us the exact text of the ordinance?

kspilot536 · October 27th, 2009, 06:28 PM

I not trying to "stir" the neighbors..I have good neighbors and have never had a problem..but sometimes I like to go outside to get my mail without having to take my gun off or put a jacket on every time I go outside for 5 minutes.
I guess it's no big deal..but if my land is not private than it has to be considered public in which the city should be paying the taxes and up keep of it right?

cz2075bd · October 27th, 2009, 06:28 PM

Not to nitpick but your mailbox is probably in a department of transportation easement which extends a bit beyond the curb. Despite the fact that you mow the grass around your mailbox, it may not be on your property.

kspilot536 · October 27th, 2009, 07:01 PM

Anubis..here it is...
"Carrying on one's person any unconcealed, loaded firearm, while on property open to the public, except when on one's land or in one's abode or fixed place of business;"

Grant48 · October 27th, 2009, 07:04 PM

Your property, your rules.

Guns and more · October 27th, 2009, 07:17 PM

If you're on a farm, probably okay.
If you're in the middle of a residential neighborhood, you're probably going to get a visit from "officer friendly".
Forget right or wrong, it's the real world.

Anubis · October 27th, 2009, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kspilot536

"Carrying on one's person any unconcealed, loaded firearm, while on property open to the public, except when on one's land or in one's abode or fixed place of business"

That grammatical structure indicates to me that the OC prohibition does not extend to property open to the public if such property is on your private "land", whether owned, leased, or rented.

October 27th, 2009, 05:43 PM	#12
Ram Rod VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: crawford county, arkansas Posts: 8,828	Here it's legal for me to carry openly on my own property. That's not to say any passerby won't call the local gendarmes about your 'threatening manner' though. Silly actually.....but if you sit on your own front porch drinking a can of beer openly, then it might violate some silly ordinance. Out in the county, we can pretty much do what we want to within reason and have no problems. __________________ RamRod-----sans remords live, eat, breathe, sleep Glock

October 27th, 2009, 05:59 PM	#13
retsupt99 VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 22,829	Walking about on my own property may be legal, but in a sub you may alarm neighbors...on a few acres it wouldn't be much cause for alarm. Why stir the neighbors? __________________ "That I cannot do." "Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks." *********************************** NRA Life Member

October 27th, 2009, 06:28 PM	#16
cz2075bd Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sterling, VA Posts: 153	Not to nitpick but your mailbox is probably in a department of transportation easement which extends a bit beyond the curb. Despite the fact that you mow the grass around your mailbox, it may not be on your property. __________________ pro-CZ's, pro-AR's, anti-CZAR's

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October 27th, 2009, 04:54 PM	#11
kspilot536 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wichita,Kansas Posts: 71	So..if I do not have my yard fenced or gated,that means the public who EVER they are can roam through my yard,play football on the 9000 dollar turf,set up volleyball nets and have a game,because it's not private until it's fenced? That ain't happening on my yard...I don't care what state it's in!

October 27th, 2009, 07:01 PM	#17
kspilot536 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wichita,Kansas Posts: 71	Anubis..here it is... "Carrying on one's person any unconcealed, loaded firearm, while on property open to the public, except when on one's land or in one's abode or fixed place of business;"

October 27th, 2009, 07:04 PM	#18
Grant48 Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 140	Your property, your rules.

October 27th, 2009, 07:17 PM	#19
Guns and more Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Fl Posts: 839	If you're on a farm, probably okay. If you're in the middle of a residential neighborhood, you're probably going to get a visit from "officer friendly". Forget right or wrong, it's the real world.