Restaurant carry in AZ

Once Bitten · October 27th, 2009, 06:29 PM

This is quoted from the update to the Arizona Gun Owners Guide:

"CCW permit holders can carry in places that serve alcohol, unless the places post official signs from the Dept of Liquor Licenses banning entry to anyone with a firearm. The ban was written broadly enough to prohibit anyone from carrying, even on-duty police or employees,if signs are posted.
If access is not banned and you posses a firearm, you may not drink. If you enter you have an affirmative defense against prosecution ( meaning you must prove your innocence) if you were not informed of the ban, the sign fell down, the sign was posted less than 30 days before you were charged, or you weren't a resident of the state....you have permission to go in far enough to see if there's a sign posted.
Drinking while carrying in a liquor-serving establishment, or carrying in such a place if it's posted for no guns, is a class 3 misdemeanor."

Does this mean LEO's would/ could be charged with a misdemeanor?
Does our state not trust it's own citizens but have no qualms about other states citizens?
Can someone expand the explanation of affirmative defense?

AZ Husker · October 27th, 2009, 06:35 PM

Check out www.ArizonaShooting.com
It's been well discussed over there.

Once Bitten · October 27th, 2009, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZ Husker

Check out Redirect
It's been well discussed over there.

Thank you for another great forum!

Once Bitten · November 2nd, 2009, 06:34 PM

OK ... I spent a week scouring and searching posts and did not find anything related to my ?
and no new answers here either???

AZ Husker · November 2nd, 2009, 06:57 PM

I haven't seen the latest book, but that publication is Alan Korwin's interpretation only. He's a very sharp guy, and it could be an error the lawmakers missed.

PastorPack · November 2nd, 2009, 07:07 PM

I think it just boils down to the simple truth that most of our lawmakers are terrible at writing laws that are easily understood.

I kind of doubt that there will to many arrests of LEOs on this statute.

Just stay legal yourself and stay safe.

sigtaujohn · November 5th, 2009, 09:35 PM

hard to stay legal if you cant understand the laws...

October 27th, 2009, 06:29 PM	#1
Once Bitten Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Fort Mohave Arizona Posts: 23	Restaurant carry in AZ This is quoted from the update to the Arizona Gun Owners Guide: "CCW permit holders can carry in places that serve alcohol, unless the places post official signs from the Dept of Liquor Licenses banning entry to anyone with a firearm. The ban was written broadly enough to prohibit anyone from carrying, even on-duty police or employees,if signs are posted. If access is not banned and you posses a firearm, you may not drink. If you enter you have an affirmative defense against prosecution ( meaning you must prove your innocence) if you were not informed of the ban, the sign fell down, the sign was posted less than 30 days before you were charged, or you weren't a resident of the state....you have permission to go in far enough to see if there's a sign posted. Drinking while carrying in a liquor-serving establishment, or carrying in such a place if it's posted for no guns, is a class 3 misdemeanor." Does this mean LEO's would/ could be charged with a misdemeanor? Does our state not trust it's own citizens but have no qualms about other states citizens? Can someone expand the explanation of affirmative defense? __________________ I do everything the voices in my wife's head tell me to do! Walmart hurts America

October 27th, 2009, 06:35 PM	#2
AZ Husker VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Phoenix Posts: 3,575	Check out www.ArizonaShooting.com It's been well discussed over there. __________________ Treat me good, I'll treat you better. Treat me bad, I'll treat you worse.

November 2nd, 2009, 06:34 PM	#4
Once Bitten Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Fort Mohave Arizona Posts: 23	OK ... I spent a week scouring and searching posts and did not find anything related to my ? and no new answers here either??? __________________ I do everything the voices in my wife's head tell me to do! Walmart hurts America

November 2nd, 2009, 06:57 PM	#5
AZ Husker VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Phoenix Posts: 3,575	I haven't seen the latest book, but that publication is Alan Korwin's interpretation only. He's a very sharp guy, and it could be an error the lawmakers missed. __________________ Treat me good, I'll treat you better. Treat me bad, I'll treat you worse.

November 2nd, 2009, 07:07 PM	#6
PastorPack Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,124	I think it just boils down to the simple truth that most of our lawmakers are terrible at writing laws that are easily understood. I kind of doubt that there will to many arrests of LEOs on this statute. Just stay legal yourself and stay safe. __________________ God is love (1 John 4:8)

November 5th, 2009, 09:35 PM	#7
sigtaujohn Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: mo Posts: 25	hard to stay legal if you cant understand the laws... __________________ "with great power comes great responsibility"

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