CC in School Parking Lot (News Article) - Page 2

miklcolt45 · October 31st, 2009, 12:36 AM

Not enough info IMO.

Why the bat? Had there been threats made by Mr. Gun Owner?
When did the gun come out? What was said first, by whom?

Are both idiots? Maybe. May even be likely.
Just hard to tell with another article written by stellar graduate of typical journalism school.

nhunterjr · October 31st, 2009, 12:38 AM

Situation sounds strange. What is one guy thinking, attacking with a bat!!!
Much more information is needed. Also sounds like the school code has gotten
way out of hand.

Eagleks · October 31st, 2009, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BkCo1

Sounds like justified self defense to me. Did the other guy have a permit for the bat ? Also it sounds like the reporter is biased against having a firearm.

Semper Fi

I agree, and think any jury will see it that way also, especially in Texas.

86thecat · October 31st, 2009, 03:45 AM

If the gun owner was ccw and attacked then pulled the gun everything would make sense, but getting the gun from his car trunk makes me wonder if it was "mutual combat".

Sticks · October 31st, 2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 86thecat

... makes me wonder if it was "mutual combat".

I know this was in TX, but in CO, we actually have a law covering that (Mutual Combat) whereas neither party can be charged.

OngngFreedom · October 31st, 2009, 12:07 PM

Isn't this the story in which the judge said if pistol owner had shot the bat wielder he would have been justified, but because he "handled" his pistol in a "no-handle" zone he was guilty?

I think this is an old story. He originally was declared innocent, I believe.

3dfxMM · October 31st, 2009, 12:21 PM

Only the law about exhibiting, using, etc., were from the Education Code. The parts at the beginning of the paragraph were from the Penal Code. Neither of those make it illegal to justifiably draw your firearm. The fact that this incident took place on school property is relatively meaningless. If either party was justified in their actions it doesn't matter that it occurred on school property. As for having a firearm in your car on school property being legal in TX. That is not completely true. If the person doesn't have a Texas CHL they are in violation of the Federal Gun-Free School Zone law.

OLDPUPPYMAX · October 31st, 2009, 05:46 PM

A nice lack of facts in this story, isn't it! Why did the guy pull his gun from his car? Why did the other guy have a baseball bat?

Tom G · October 31st, 2009, 06:19 PM

I think both sides are idiots.I wonder if any of the kids were around to witness the parents make a fool of them selves. there had to be another way to settle the problem. This is a time when either party could have walked away or called the cops.

TX-JB · October 31st, 2009, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 3dfxMM

As for having a firearm in your car on school property being legal in TX. That is not completely true. If the person doesn't have a Texas CHL they are in violation of the Federal Gun-Free School Zone law.

Not true. The law changed in Sept., allowing the concealed carry of a handgun in your vehicle, without a CHL... so the federal statute no longer applies, in this case...

October 31st, 2009, 12:36 AM	#11
miklcolt45 VIP Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida's Space Coast Posts: 2,176	Not enough info IMO. Why the bat? Had there been threats made by Mr. Gun Owner? When did the gun come out? What was said first, by whom? Are both idiots? Maybe. May even be likely. Just hard to tell with another article written by stellar graduate of typical journalism school. __________________ Mike In God we trust. Everyone else, keep your hands where I can see them.

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October 31st, 2009, 12:38 AM	#12
nhunterjr Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: woodland park colorado united states Posts: 20	Situation sounds strange. What is one guy thinking, attacking with a bat!!! Much more information is needed. Also sounds like the school code has gotten way out of hand.

October 31st, 2009, 03:45 AM	#14
86thecat Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Central WA Posts: 104	If the gun owner was ccw and attacked then pulled the gun everything would make sense, but getting the gun from his car trunk makes me wonder if it was "mutual combat".

October 31st, 2009, 12:07 PM	#16
OngngFreedom Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Middle Tennessee Posts: 15	Isn't this the story in which the judge said if pistol owner had shot the bat wielder he would have been justified, but because he "handled" his pistol in a "no-handle" zone he was guilty? I think this is an old story. He originally was declared innocent, I believe.

October 31st, 2009, 12:21 PM	#17
3dfxMM Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 18	Only the law about exhibiting, using, etc., were from the Education Code. The parts at the beginning of the paragraph were from the Penal Code. Neither of those make it illegal to justifiably draw your firearm. The fact that this incident took place on school property is relatively meaningless. If either party was justified in their actions it doesn't matter that it occurred on school property. As for having a firearm in your car on school property being legal in TX. That is not completely true. If the person doesn't have a Texas CHL they are in violation of the Federal Gun-Free School Zone law.

October 31st, 2009, 05:46 PM	#18
OLDPUPPYMAX Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 70	A nice lack of facts in this story, isn't it! Why did the guy pull his gun from his car? Why did the other guy have a baseball bat?

October 31st, 2009, 06:19 PM	#19
Tom G VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 2,049	I think both sides are idiots.I wonder if any of the kids were around to witness the parents make a fool of them selves. there had to be another way to settle the problem. This is a time when either party could have walked away or called the cops.