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PaxMentis · November 2nd, 2009, 11:09 PM

"In his direction" from 30 yards at a withdrawing (possible) thief in a residential area is the definition of reckless...and would be hard to defend even here in S. Oregon where we take home defense seriously.

Just my opinion...

SIXTO · November 2nd, 2009, 11:15 PM

Robbery; the act or practice of robbing; specifically: larceny from the person or presence of another by violence or threat.

Burglary; the act of entering a structure to commit another crime, typically a theft.

Cold Warrior · November 3rd, 2009, 12:10 AM

In OUR CCW training, in the state of Ohio: You DO NOT have the right to shoot at people outside to defend property, especially unarmed people in the dark who are not threatening or shooting at you. I am glad that he was not prosecuted or punished, save for a tongue lashing and not a pleasant one for using his gun.

BlueNinjaGo · November 3rd, 2009, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Cold Warrior

In OUR CCW training, in the state of Ohio: You DO NOT have the right to shoot at people outside to defend property, especially unarmed people in the dark who are not threatening or shooting at you. I am glad that he was not prosecuted or punished, save for a tongue lashing and not a pleasant one for using his gun.

Good thing he wasn't in Ohio then, huh...

And charges can still be pressed from the article I glanced at earlier...

TX-JB · November 3rd, 2009, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SIXTO

Robbery; the act or practice of robbing; specifically: larceny from the person or presence of another by violence or threat.

Burglary; the act of entering a structure to commit another crime, typically a theft.

Thanks Sixto, That bothers me, too..

Eagleks · November 3rd, 2009, 01:42 AM

Ya never know.

A man here, saw a guy breaking into his car and shot him from inside the house thru the kitchen window. The bullet hit the BG in the head and killed him. He was charged with murder.

His defense was, he was not intending to "hit" the guy, but scare him and the glass actually deflected the bullet, causing it to hit the deceased. He also said he was in fear that he would grab the garage door opener in the car and come into the house.....

He was found not guilty by the jury. We , were all amazed.

dukalmighty · November 3rd, 2009, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Eagleks

Ya never know.

A man here, saw a guy breaking into his car and shot him from inside the house thru the kitchen window. The bullet hit the BG in the head and killed him. He was charged with murder.

His defense was, he was not intending to "hit" the guy, but scare him and the glass actually deflected the bullet, causing it to hit the deceased. He also said he was in fear that he would grab the garage door opener in the car and come into the house.....

He was found not guilty by the jury. We , were all amazed.

I think people are getting tired of being victims and the law says hey suk it up and just replace your stuff,

retsupt99 · November 3rd, 2009, 07:15 AM

Shooting his gun in the air was a stupid move and served no purpose expect landing him in hot water.
Confronting the dirtbag in his car is another discussion.
He would have been just as effective by turning on all the outside lights and making noise while calling 911...or just calling 911 and let the cops approach quietly to catch them. Anything except shooting in the air.

BlueNinjaGo · November 3rd, 2009, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by retsupt99

or just calling 911 and let the cops approach quietly to catch them.

Depends on where you live... I live in "suburbia" and it still takes 5-10 minimum to get an officer here... unless we luck out and have one already nearby... (our neighborhood doesn't have a police patrol)

Most car break-ins probably last 1-2 minutes, but I'm not really sure... I can't imagine them sticking around...

DrLewall · November 3rd, 2009, 09:32 AM

"Brains before bullets!"

November 2nd, 2009, 11:15 PM	#12
SIXTO VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 12,258	Just a pet peeve; Robbery; the act or practice of robbing; specifically: larceny from the person or presence of another by violence or threat. Burglary; the act of entering a structure to commit another crime, typically a theft. __________________ _________________ \|^^^^^^^^^^^^^\| \|___ \| SIXTO EXPRESS---\| \|\|'\|";,__. \|_..._...___________\| \|\|_\|_\|...,] "(@)'(@)""""\|(@)(@)*****(@)

November 3rd, 2009, 07:15 AM	#18
retsupt99 VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 22,823	Shooting his gun in the air was a stupid move and served no purpose expect landing him in hot water. Confronting the dirtbag in his car is another discussion. He would have been just as effective by turning on all the outside lights and making noise while calling 911...or just calling 911 and let the cops approach quietly to catch them. Anything except shooting in the air. __________________ "That I cannot do." "Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks." *********************************** NRA Life Member

November 3rd, 2009, 09:32 AM	#20
DrLewall Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Drakes Creek, AR Posts: 877	"Brains before bullets!" __________________ "Brains before Bullets"

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November 2nd, 2009, 11:09 PM	#11
PaxMentis Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: S. Oregon (aka Paradise) Posts: 20	"In his direction" from 30 yards at a withdrawing (possible) thief in a residential area is the definition of reckless...and would be hard to defend even here in S. Oregon where we take home defense seriously. Just my opinion...

November 3rd, 2009, 12:10 AM	#13
Cold Warrior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: West Carrollton, Ohio Posts: 152	In OUR CCW training, in the state of Ohio: You DO NOT have the right to shoot at people outside to defend property, especially unarmed people in the dark who are not threatening or shooting at you. I am glad that he was not prosecuted or punished, save for a tongue lashing and not a pleasant one for using his gun.

November 3rd, 2009, 01:42 AM	#16
Eagleks Distinguished Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 1,756	Ya never know. A man here, saw a guy breaking into his car and shot him from inside the house thru the kitchen window. The bullet hit the BG in the head and killed him. He was charged with murder. His defense was, he was not intending to "hit" the guy, but scare him and the glass actually deflected the bullet, causing it to hit the deceased. He also said he was in fear that he would grab the garage door opener in the car and come into the house..... He was found not guilty by the jury. We , were all amazed.