NEW ONE ON ME ~ Anybody???

QKShooter · March 6th, 2005, 10:29 PM

Found this on the web. Chime In On It.

A new way to grip the sub compact Glock

"I was instructed earlier today a new way to grip and shoot the sub compact Glocks. I learned this from an Israeli intelligence agent and it's a method that is becoming more common in the Mo**ad.

I hope I can explain this well enough: Grip the gun with your strong hand and use your weak hand my placing the palm of the week hand under the mag. Both thumbs should point forward towards the muzzle. O.K. that’s as conventional as it gets.

Now with the strong firing hand place your trigger finger alongside the fame just under the slide but not coming in contact with it. Take your middle finger and that is now your trigger finger.

I have seen that while unorthodox it lends more stability in regards to the natural extension of the weapon. It may take some getting used to it, but it does seem to have some usefulness. I have to try it out a little more."

This may possibly be some some sort of innovative "point shooting QK pistol hold" but I've tried it and it sure does not work for me.
How do you say an entire lifetime of Muscle Memory tossed out the old window.

Bud White · March 6th, 2005, 10:43 PM

Sounds to werid and goofy to me ... would worry about getting the old trigger finger messed up .. ill fondle my mini glock tomm just to say i tried it

QKShooter · March 6th, 2005, 10:50 PM

Well, I have been Point & Instinctive shooting for a long time.
And so with this particular shooting hold you are supposed to be able to point with your trigger finger at the target you are engaging? I'm not buying it.
That is not my form of instinctive shooting & not my definition of point shooting.
Any tactical folks or shooting instructors here actually teach this hold?
Is it valid?
Just curious?

P95Carry · March 6th, 2005, 11:17 PM

Don't buy it either! And - the hold is essentially cup and saucer too - not what I consider a very laterally stable hold.

Oh well - always something new!!

Bumper · March 7th, 2005, 12:08 AM

Glad I don't have to worry about learning a new way to hold my 1911s!

SSKC · March 7th, 2005, 08:16 AM

When I was a kid, back before the wheel was invented, I used to do a lot of point shooting with my BB gun. I single-handedly saved my neighborhood from a gang of marauding Coke cans. :) I actually tried using a similar grip, with my right index finger straight and my middle finger on the trigger thinking I could just "point and shoot." It didn't work. I had much better results with a conventional grip.

As feeble-minded as I am, I don't think I'd want to try to learn a new grip unless I was going to use it on EVERY gun EVERY time. Personally, I think the G26/27 works just fine with a conventional grip.

SSKC

Bud White · March 7th, 2005, 08:37 AM

Now that i have had a chance to fondel mini glock and a lack for a night sleep ..

Well if your a righty sticking you finger out puts it pretty much in the way of the ejection port so brass can smack it .. i do have big hands and am a lefty so maybe my grip is to high here...

Now doing the same for the left hand grip puts you finger riding the slide stop another bad ideal if you as me .. P95carry is right its the old cup and saucer grip (thanks) couldnt rember what it was called...

Very very bad way to grip the gun might as well one hand it instead

JT · March 7th, 2005, 08:50 AM

I never had a problem gripping my sub compact Glock, and I have large hands. There is no room for the pinky on the grip so it naturally curls under the gun and grips from the bottom. Same thing with my S&W 642. It’s a bad idea to develop different grips for different handguns. If I couldn’t grip a gun with only very minor modifications from my standard grip (the kind my hand automatically does), I would not use it.

Euclidean · March 7th, 2005, 09:20 AM

Well I know there's a Ministry of Silly Walks. Perhaps there's also a Ministry of Silly Grips?

nighthawk · March 7th, 2005, 09:32 AM

Might work with small hands, but with large hands your index finger is going to either rub the slide or get in the way of brass. I can't imagine this being comfortable or second hand nature when the SHTF.

March 6th, 2005, 10:29 PM	#1
QKShooter Assistant Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Runthegun, USA Posts: 18,777	NEW ONE ON ME ~ Anybody??? Found this on the web. Chime In On It. A new way to grip the sub compact Glock "I was instructed earlier today a new way to grip and shoot the sub compact Glocks. I learned this from an Israeli intelligence agent and it's a method that is becoming more common in the Moad. I hope I can explain this well enough: Grip the gun with your strong hand and use your weak hand my placing the palm of the week hand under the mag. Both thumbs should point forward towards the muzzle. O.K. that’s as conventional as it gets. Now with the strong firing hand place your trigger finger alongside the fame just under the slide but not coming in contact with it. Take your middle finger and that is now your trigger finger. I have seen that while unorthodox it lends more stability in regards to the natural extension of the weapon. It may take some getting used to it, but it does seem to have some usefulness. I have to try it out a little more." This may possibly be some some sort of innovative "point shooting QK pistol hold" but I've tried it and it sure does not work for me. How do you say an entire lifetime of Muscle Memory tossed out the old window. __________________ Support Our Troops** How Very Fortunate You Are To Have Two Arms To Put Into A Ward 57 T-Shirt. DC MEMBERS ~ PLEASE BUY A WARD 57 SHIRT. Click Here. Last edited by QKShooter; March 6th, 2005 at 10:36 PM. Reason: Addition

March 6th, 2005, 10:50 PM	#3
QKShooter Assistant Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Runthegun, USA Posts: 18,777	Point Shooting Well, I have been Point & Instinctive shooting for a long time. And so with this particular shooting hold you are supposed to be able to point with your trigger finger at the target you are engaging? I'm not buying it. That is not my form of instinctive shooting & not my definition of point shooting. Any tactical folks or shooting instructors here actually teach this hold? Is it valid? Just curious? __________________ *Support Our Troops* How Very Fortunate You Are To Have Two Arms To Put Into A Ward 57 T-Shirt. DC MEMBERS ~ PLEASE BUY A WARD 57 SHIRT. Click Here.

March 6th, 2005, 11:17 PM	#4
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,339	Don't buy it either! And - the hold is essentially cup and saucer too - not what I consider a very laterally stable hold. Oh well - always something new!! __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug Last edited by P95Carry; March 6th, 2005 at 11:17 PM. Reason: typo's ........ #@$&$*

March 7th, 2005, 12:08 AM	#5
Bumper Administrator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 12,921	Glad I don't have to worry about learning a new way to hold my 1911s! __________________ Bumper Administrator DefensiveCarry.com Forum Coimhéad fearg fhear na foighde; Beware the anger of a patient man.

March 7th, 2005, 08:50 AM	#8
JT Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 1,096	I never had a problem gripping my sub compact Glock, and I have large hands. There is no room for the pinky on the grip so it naturally curls under the gun and grips from the bottom. Same thing with my S&W 642. It’s a bad idea to develop different grips for different handguns. If I couldn’t grip a gun with only very minor modifications from my standard grip (the kind my hand automatically does), I would not use it. __________________ Blessed be the Lord my rock who trains my hands for war and my fingers for battle. Psalm 144:1 Si vis pacem, para bellum

March 6th, 2005, 10:43 PM	#2
Bud White VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 17,476	Sounds to werid and goofy to me ... would worry about getting the old trigger finger messed up .. ill fondle my mini glock tomm just to say i tried it

March 7th, 2005, 08:16 AM	#6
SSKC Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 357	When I was a kid, back before the wheel was invented, I used to do a lot of point shooting with my BB gun. I single-handedly saved my neighborhood from a gang of marauding Coke cans. :) I actually tried using a similar grip, with my right index finger straight and my middle finger on the trigger thinking I could just "point and shoot." It didn't work. I had much better results with a conventional grip. As feeble-minded as I am, I don't think I'd want to try to learn a new grip unless I was going to use it on EVERY gun EVERY time. Personally, I think the G26/27 works just fine with a conventional grip. SSKC

March 7th, 2005, 08:37 AM	#7
Bud White VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 17,476	Now that i have had a chance to fondel mini glock and a lack for a night sleep .. Well if your a righty sticking you finger out puts it pretty much in the way of the ejection port so brass can smack it .. i do have big hands and am a lefty so maybe my grip is to high here... Now doing the same for the left hand grip puts you finger riding the slide stop another bad ideal if you as me .. P95carry is right its the old cup and saucer grip (thanks) couldnt rember what it was called... Very very bad way to grip the gun might as well one hand it instead

March 7th, 2005, 09:20 AM	#9
Euclidean VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 3,213	Well I know there's a Ministry of Silly Walks. Perhaps there's also a Ministry of Silly Grips? __________________ I am The Armed Educator.

March 7th, 2005, 09:32 AM	#10
nighthawk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 239	Might work with small hands, but with large hands your index finger is going to either rub the slide or get in the way of brass. I can't imagine this being comfortable or second hand nature when the SHTF.

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