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Old January 21st, 2008, 01:11 PM   #1
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MY wife and I are going to start attending some classes. We began our newfound love of guns in October 2007, so we are quite novice, however we are quite addicted, and serious. Neither of us had shot any type of weapon prior to October.
We both have our CCW permits. We have read 10 or 11 books, on handguns and personal defense. I have participated in 2 IDPA events. Is Front Sight in Pahrump, NV a good choice for a first school, or is there a better choice for us? We live in North Carolina, but are willing to travel. NV would be nice for us because we could go with friends who also shoot, and also spend time in Las Vegas. Thanks for all your guidance.
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Old January 21st, 2008, 01:24 PM   #2
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Is Front Sight in Pahrump, NV a good choice for a first school, or is there a better choice for us? We live in North Carolina.


If you live in North Carolina why in the world would you travel to Front Sight? When you have (ONE OF THE WORLDS BEST) Training facility in Moyock North Carolina.

Blackwater USA

also good are:

Golden Seal Enterprises
http://www.tacticalresponse.com
Perroni's Tactical Training Academy - Virginia Firearms Training
Practical Firearms Training Pat Goodale
Welcome to Practical Firearms Training 540-559-4151
10-8 Consulting Tim Lau
10-8 Consulting - Home Page
Trident Concepts Jeff Gonzales
http://www.tridentconcepts.com/index.asp
Rogers Shooting School Bill Rogers
http://www.rogers-shooting-school.com/
EAG Tactical Pat Rogers
E.A.G. Tactical
ITTS Scott Reitz
ITTS Firearms School. Southern California's Elite Tactical Training Facility. International Tactical Training Seminars
Triple Canopy
http://www.triplecanopy.com/tripleca...rain/index.php
Thunder Ranch Clint Smith
Thunder Ranch® Oregon
Chapman Academy R ay Chapman
Chapman Academy of Practical Shooting - Main Page
Defense Training International John Farnam
Defense Training International, Inc.
Defensive Use of a Firearm LLC. Steve Wenger.
http://www.spw-duf.info/training.
Strategos International Ken Good & Frank Borelli
Strategos International - Tactical Training and Equipment for Military and Law Enforcement Personnel
Valhalla Rob Pincus
http://www.valhallatraining.com/
Viking Tactics Kyle Lamb
Viking Tactics
Yavapai Firearms Louis Awerbuck
Yavapai Firearms Academy

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Old January 21st, 2008, 01:58 PM   #3
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Please forgive my ignorance, but I thought Blackwater was more oriented to military and LE? By the way, thanks for the quick response.
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Old January 21st, 2008, 02:44 PM   #4
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Blackwater Open Enrollment Courses

This is what is open to the public for training at BW.

Blackwater Open Enrollment Courses

Introductory Pistol
Basic Pistol
Advanced Skills Handgun
Tactical Pistol I
Tactical Pistol II
NC Concealed Carry
Basic Shotgun
Pistol/Carbine

http://www.balckwaterusa.com

Training at BW North Carolina.

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TwoAkitas,

In addition to the ones listed earlier there are several top notch training companies that conduct training in North Carolina, in addition to my own LMS Defense

There are:

TigerSwan
VickersTactical
Bennie Cooley/CRTC

and many others. You don't have to travel far in NC for some of the best training in the world.

Drop me a line describing what you're looking for and maybe I can point you in the right direction without you having to travel very far.
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Old January 21st, 2008, 02:58 PM   #6
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With BW right in your back yard I think that you could really cash in on that. Great training close to home.


However, back to your question on Front Sight, I have never heard a bad thing about their training. They had some issues a few years back with some property issues but they are a very pro gun outfit and put their money where their mouth is. They spend and donate millions on 2a causes around the country.
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TwoAkitas,

In addition to the ones listed earlier there are several top notch training companies that conduct training in North Carolina, in addition to my own LMS Defense

There are:

TigerSwan
VickersTactical
Bennie Cooley/CRTC

and many others. You don't have to travel far in NC for some of the best training in the world.

Drop me a line describing what you're looking for and maybe I can point you in the right direction without you having to travel very far.

I have not trained with any of the above but have heard good things about all Three Trainers & Companies. I am sure you could not go wrong with any of them. However I am currently working as a I/C Instructor for Blackwater that is why I pointed you in that direction. So I guess you have plenty to pick from right in your own backyard!

Good luck!

Stay Safe & Shoot Straight!

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Old January 21st, 2008, 03:19 PM   #8
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I have taken Lethal Force Institute's LFI-1 class with Massad Ayoob, and I think it is excellent. It is specifically oriented towards deadly force training, as opposed to just weapon craft, and it gets into very detailed discussion of the laws and ethics of lethal self-defense. It is not a CCW course specifically, but would be very useful for that. The 2008 schedule should be out on that website very soon.

If you choose to take another course, you should at least get and read (if you have not already) Ayoob's In the Gravest Extreme.

Good luck!
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Old January 21st, 2008, 11:50 PM   #9
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A huge thank you to everyone who has taken the time to respond to my question in such detail! What I am hearing from those of you who have responded to my question so far is there are many choices for schools that are closer to us than Frontsight and we should check out our own backyard, so to speak, before heading across the country.

We have read Ayoob's book mentioned in kazzaerexys' post as well as David Kenik's book Armed Response; Surgical Speed Shooting by Andy Stanford; John S. Farnam's book The Farnam Method of Defensive Shotgun and Rifle Shooting; The Tactical Shotgun by Gabriel Suarez; The Essential Guide to Handguns; Tactical Pistol Marksmanship by Gabe Suarez; How to Become a Master Handgunner by Charles Stephens; and The Concealed Handgun Manual by Chris Bird. However, all the book learning in the world doesn't have the same impact as speaking with real people with real experience which is why I have also been an avid reader of forums on sites such as this one and truly appreciate you veterans taking the time to educate those of us newcomers.
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Old February 1st, 2008, 05:16 PM   #10
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Frontsight??? Input appreciated

Looking at getting some add'l training.....................


Anyone know anything about these guys????


Let me know.

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