The Buick of Truth

MattLarson · November 17th, 2006, 04:06 PM

This is a VERY eye-opening set of experiments from the masters of shooting stuff at the box o' truth:

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/thebuickotruth.htm

Interesting to see the effect of vehicle structure on small arms rounds.

Might make you re-think your defensive plans a bit....

Matt

levi333 · November 17th, 2006, 04:20 PM

Cool. Always love to see more "experiments" by these guys.

steve_db · November 17th, 2006, 04:32 PM

very intersting. thanks for the post.
btw - for the pistol tests, I wouldn't expect jhp to do as well as ball ammo.

HotGuns · November 17th, 2006, 04:34 PM

Thats a good read.

craze · November 17th, 2006, 04:57 PM

I checked that out earlier today myself. The safety glass in those windshields is tough stuff. .22LR didn't penetrate at all!

Wayne · November 17th, 2006, 05:10 PM

You know the real reason they do this:

"Shooting at stuff is fun"

I like these guys also, good writeups and impressive shots (pictures). Also takes the "fun" out of shoot-em-up movies because you sit there rolling your eyes at the stupid stuff they try to pass off as "real".

Wayne

pgrass101 · November 17th, 2006, 05:17 PM

I don't believe their results.....does anyone have a car I can shoot?

Very Good post. It is really good info on what is cover and what is concealment.

ELCruisr · November 17th, 2006, 06:38 PM

A very interesting read. Sure wish I could volunteer to help do some of their shooting!

retsupt99 · November 17th, 2006, 07:11 PM

Can I borrow your car?
_______________________________

Interesting info...and that is something I have thought about...

Thanks...

ret

XD in SC · November 18th, 2006, 12:49 PM

Quote:

So what is the bottom line of the Buick O' Truth?
1. You do NOT want to be in the passenger compartment of a vehicle when someone opens up on it with a firearm.

As I was at Blackwater this week, my dentist was driving from his home with his wife to go to dinner when their jackass neighbor opened up on their vehicle with a firearm. His wife is dead and he is still in the intensive care unit on a vent at UVA.

If someone starts shooting at you while you are in a vehicle, get the hell out of there NOW. Hit the accelerator and if you have to run the ******* over, do it.

A car provides little in the way of cover, but it DOES give you the power to move fast which makes you harder to hit. Use that to your advantage.

A reality mention too!

November 17th, 2006, 04:06 PM	#1
MattLarson Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Central Florida Posts: 2,483	The Buick of Truth This is a VERY eye-opening set of experiments from the masters of shooting stuff at the box o' truth: http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/thebuickotruth.htm Interesting to see the effect of vehicle structure on small arms rounds. Might make you re-think your defensive plans a bit.... Matt __________________ Hope is not a plan.

November 17th, 2006, 04:34 PM	#4
HotGuns Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 5,159	Thats a good read. __________________ AR. CHL Instr. To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men, their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism, and religious dogmas.' Dr. G. Brock Chisolm

November 17th, 2006, 04:57 PM	#5
craze Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 341	I checked that out earlier today myself. The safety glass in those windshields is tough stuff. .22LR didn't penetrate at all! __________________ "The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good. --George Washington

November 17th, 2006, 06:38 PM	#8
ELCruisr Distinguished Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Central FL Posts: 1,876	A very interesting read. Sure wish I could volunteer to help do some of their shooting! __________________ If you stand up and be counted, from time to time you may get yourself knocked down. But remember this: A man flattened by an opponent can get up again. A man flattened by conformity stays down for good. ~ Thomas J. Watson, Jr.

November 17th, 2006, 07:11 PM	#9
retsupt99 VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 14,902	Honey?... Can I borrow your car? _______________________________ Interesting info...and that is something I have thought about... Thanks... ret __________________ "That I cannot do." "Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks." *********************************** NRA Life Member

November 17th, 2006, 04:20 PM	#2
levi333 Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oregon, in the valley Posts: 123	Cool. Always love to see more "experiments" by these guys.

November 17th, 2006, 04:32 PM	#3
steve_db Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: florida Posts: 219	very intersting. thanks for the post. btw - for the pistol tests, I wouldn't expect jhp to do as well as ball ammo.

November 17th, 2006, 05:10 PM	#6
Wayne Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 823	You know the real reason they do this: "Shooting at stuff is fun" I like these guys also, good writeups and impressive shots (pictures). Also takes the "fun" out of shoot-em-up movies because you sit there rolling your eyes at the stupid stuff they try to pass off as "real". Wayne

November 17th, 2006, 05:17 PM	#7
pgrass101 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 6,064	I don't believe their results.....does anyone have a car I can shoot? Very Good post. It is really good info on what is cover and what is concealment.

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