P95Carry

Guys - someone else had found this and used it in a post - struck me as being of some interest to all perhaps.

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From - Firing Line forum (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/.../t-47579.htm):


"Dr45ACP

"Sanow doesn't understand why people die after being shot.

"I am a surgeon, have operated on many GSW victims.

"No handgun, including 357, 9mm, etc, is a 'high energy' or 'high velocity' round. Energy and velocity are more important when we are talking about rifle calibers. With respect to high powered rifles, a shock wave of energy does spread out at impact and devitalizes a large area of tissue by disrupting small blood vessels, etc. The effects of this, however, may not be immediately obvious to the eye, though it will help to incapacitate the victim.

"Handguns are low energy, low velocity weapons. They do not have this effect. The primary determinants of their lethality is shot placement and the size of the defect they create.

"The cross sectional area of a 45 cal bullet is about 50% larger than for a 38 cal bullet, and therefore 50% more blood will be lost over a certain time. Or a 50% larger hole will be made in a criminals brain, heart, lung, etc.

"My experience has been that people with large holes shot through them are more likely to die than those who have small holes. Big holes are harder to fix. More tissue is destroyed.

"I have never seen anyone with an injury that I would attribute to 'energy' from a certain handgun round. All I see are holes that have to be repaired.

"Velocity and energy for a handgun round is important because it increases the chances a hollowpoint will expand on impact.

"Finally, as far a 9mm bullets tumbling: they certainly do. But so do 22, 25, 38, 40, and 45!"

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is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!."

If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

Bud White

Thats a intersting Read... That proves the 45 and bigger holes is still better :chairshot

KC135

Believe me, Sanow knows. Anyone who has ever listened to Sanow lecture knows.

This is just more of the Marshall/Sanow haters baloney.

Jealousy.

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Waldo0506

Velocity and energy are important for other reasons too. Like penetration.

MattXYZ

Sanow and Marshall are biased chumps. Check out firearmstactical.com-wound ballistics for the discrepancies in their data.

ELCruisr

Here we go again

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QKShooter

I'm staying with my .45 so I'll not worry about it and just concentrate on putting any possible future life-defensive shots in hopefully effective locations.

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rstickle

Bottom line has always been that someone killed with a .22 is just as dead as one killed with a .45. The most important thing is to be able to hit your target (in a lethal place)!

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Rick

EOD - Initial success or total failure

afeazell21

That is interesting.

paramedic70002

Yep here we go again.

22s do kill, but it takes a lot longer. I prefer an immediate stop, or at least as is convenient.

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