Winchester White Box Failure Rate - Page 4

SelfDefense · September 6th, 2007, 10:09 PM

QK,

Don't get me wrong. I appreciate your posting the documented problems. As with the internal lock issue, I had no idea it might be an issue until I read it in this forum. This is a great forum with a vast amount of information. It is a stepping point towards understanding all these firearm issues. I simply want to put the information in perspective.

I just bought 1500 rounds of it for Brownie's class this weekend to be fire from my brand new XD9 (100 rounds total) I'll post my failures if I return.

citizen510 · September 6th, 2007, 11:24 PM

I have put about 2,000 rounds of WWB .45ACP down range and have not had any problems.

Could it be that the people testing the stuff had bad guns?

sniper58 · September 6th, 2007, 11:42 PM

I haven't had any problems with WWB in .40 or .45 after about a total of 5,000 rounds. I am not "putting it out there" either (I hope). I like th idea of being able to afford a decent quantity for practice or SHTF. I carry Magtech Guardian Gold JHP in both pistols for defense.

My groups with WWB are decent and so far - reliable. I won't carry for defense unless I run out of the "good stuff."

QKShooter · September 7th, 2007, 03:34 AM

It's real good to read that folks here are NOT having any problems at all with it these days.
I sure am hoping that folks don't have any problems.
I'll only ever wish bad ammo on terrorists and bad guys who are shooting at me.

rocky · September 7th, 2007, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P95Carry

Good collection of comment material QK ....... when is the book gonna be published

Just hit print on your computer. (make sure you have lots of paper. )

some good info though. A good warning for people to consider, before using this brand of ammo.

Colin · September 8th, 2007, 01:06 AM

I just fired off 500 Winclean 9mm, with no problems

gotammo · September 8th, 2007, 04:12 PM

10s of thousands of rounds 9mm , .40, .45s can't remember one problem, gun problems but no ammo problems.
I have problems with premium ammo but WWB flawless operation so far.

tanksoldier · September 8th, 2007, 07:05 PM

I've never had ammunition related problems with WWB or Win Value Pack and I've shot quite a bit of it over the years. I know it's not primium ammo, but it's worked for me.

Having said that due to price differences I've switched to Remington UMC for my practice ammo. With a case price of $6.89/50 rds at Dick's it's the cheapest thing going around here except Wolf. The UMC also seems a bit snappier than WWB, so I assume a higher velocity though I haven't seen it chronographed.

I carry Winchester Super X Silvertips for SD ammo, though I can't afford to stockpile SD ammo so the UMC also makes up my SHTF supply.

Jamie Young · September 8th, 2007, 08:47 PM

A firing range near me has banned it because of the number of problems they have had with it.

Tangle · September 10th, 2007, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie Young

A firing range near me has banned it because of the number of problems they have had with it.

By any chance do they sell 'range' ammo?

September 6th, 2007, 11:24 PM	#32
citizen510 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 320	I have put about 2,000 rounds of WWB .45ACP down range and have not had any problems. Could it be that the people testing the stuff had bad guns? __________________ It is not the Bill of Privileges. It is not the Bill of Permits. It is the Bill of Rights. People should not be afraid of the government; the government should be afraid of the people.

September 6th, 2007, 11:42 PM	#33
sniper58 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,068	I haven't had any problems with WWB in .40 or .45 after about a total of 5,000 rounds. I am not "putting it out there" either (I hope). I like th idea of being able to afford a decent quantity for practice or SHTF. I carry Magtech Guardian Gold JHP in both pistols for defense. My groups with WWB are decent and so far - reliable. I won't carry for defense unless I run out of the "good stuff." __________________ Tim BE PREPARED - Noah didn't build the Ark when it was raining! The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Thomas Jefferson ________ NRA Life Member

September 8th, 2007, 07:05 PM	#38
tanksoldier Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,130	I've never had ammunition related problems with WWB or Win Value Pack and I've shot quite a bit of it over the years. I know it's not primium ammo, but it's worked for me. Having said that due to price differences I've switched to Remington UMC for my practice ammo. With a case price of $6.89/50 rds at Dick's it's the cheapest thing going around here except Wolf. The UMC also seems a bit snappier than WWB, so I assume a higher velocity though I haven't seen it chronographed. I carry Winchester Super X Silvertips for SD ammo, though I can't afford to stockpile SD ammo so the UMC also makes up my SHTF supply. __________________ "I am a Soldier. I fight where I am told, and I win where I fight." GEN George S. Patton, Jr. "Drive fast and eat cheese!"

September 8th, 2007, 08:47 PM	#39
Jamie Young Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Posts: 469	A firing range near me has banned it because of the number of problems they have had with it. __________________ Find out about Gun Shows and Training activities. www.TheRallyPoint.org Get your gun club involved!! Free TRP.org stickers RogueElite.net

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September 6th, 2007, 10:09 PM	#31
SelfDefense Distinguished Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tucson Posts: 1,737	QK, Don't get me wrong. I appreciate your posting the documented problems. As with the internal lock issue, I had no idea it might be an issue until I read it in this forum. This is a great forum with a vast amount of information. It is a stepping point towards understanding all these firearm issues. I simply want to put the information in perspective. I just bought 1500 rounds of it for Brownie's class this weekend to be fire from my brand new XD9 (100 rounds total) I'll post my failures if I return.

September 7th, 2007, 03:34 AM	#34
QKShooter Assistant Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Off Of The X Posts: 20,469	It's real good to read that folks here are NOT having any problems at all with it these days. I sure am hoping that folks don't have any problems. I'll only ever wish bad ammo on terrorists and bad guys who are shooting at me.

September 8th, 2007, 01:06 AM	#36
Colin Distinguished Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 1,421	I just fired off 500 Winclean 9mm, with no problems

September 8th, 2007, 04:12 PM	#37
gotammo Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: CT Posts: 406	10s of thousands of rounds 9mm , .40, .45s can't remember one problem, gun problems but no ammo problems. I have problems with premium ammo but WWB flawless operation so far.