Bud White

cons hard to find and you must reload to really take advantage of it
limited style of bullets

Pros.. Powerful if you load close to the original Norma loads they run towards 41 magnum loads

Run's very well in a 1911 and most other guns

Big Boom

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http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/cat...products_id=45

http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/cat...roducts_id=105

http://www.buffalobore.com/ammunition/default.htm#10mm

http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/cat...products_id=35

It does seem that most "name brand" commercial loadings are kept below 700 ft lbs (though that's certainly nothing to sneeze at), but there are loads out there that exceed 700 by a good margin. If you want 800, you're going to have to search around, or load your own (and work on your wrist muscles!).

The price you pay for this power is, of course, recoil, large gun, reduced capacity (compared to some, more capacity compared to others), and did I mention recoil? Even the milder SD loads are noticeably more harsh than any standard pressure .40 or .45 rounds...but if you can shoot it accurately and quickly under stress, then it really can't be touched in an autoloading pistol (DE excepted, of course, but that's a horse of a different color...)

Now, finding it cheaply and easily is another matter, as is practice ammo if you don't roll your own...

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nn

S&W 610 about like a full house .357 for recoil with 10mm ammo.
A little more snappy than a .45acp with .40s&w.
I have not had trouble finding ammo.

Colin

Your knees get sore from hunting for every last piece of brass, everyone I know that has a gun in it, loves it. If you reload it gives you huge option in ammo, from nice and easy to hard hitting. I will get a 10mm one day myself.

Gunnutty

I've got the Delta Elite in 10mm. Absolutely love it. Mine has been ported and that does help recoil recovery. I like the 1911 platform and the 1911 45 holsters will work for it. I don't carry it alot yet but the more I shoot it the better I like it.

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gglockster

I really like everything about 10mm. Recoil is manageable. Excellent ballistics. Ammunition can be expensive and it is difficult to find hot factory loads for defense. A previous poster to this thread referenced the case of Harold Fish
convicted of 2nd degree murder for defending himself with a 10mm.

joleary223

Wow! thanks for all the good info and honest opinions. I don't think I would carry this gun but there is a chance so the Harold Fish case does worry me a little.
I honestly didn't know 10mm was so powerful, the ballistics are very impressive, makes me wonder why more LEO don't use it.
I'm a big fan of the 1911 platform to begin with but I'm not stuck in a rut, any platforms to avoid in 10mm?

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I think the primary reason that more cops don't use it is because many cops can't 'handle' it. If you only ever shot at yearly or semi-annual qualifications, you might be intimidated by full power 10mm loads, too. Plus, the round is long-ish, and requires a pretty big gun to be at all comfortable. Folks with very small hands may find a double-stack 10mm a bit much for them.

Of course, the FBI loved the round - until they started actually issuing them. Then all the complaints started coming in, and the power was reduced...Then some genius figured, "Hey, we're no using all this case space anyway, let's do away with it!" and voila, the .40S&W is born.

In light loadings, you really do only have a longer .40S&W - but in the hotter loadings the 10mm is much more potent.

From what I understand, the Glock 10mms are, well, Glocks. They work, they're reasonable accurate, they hold a bunch of rounds. Other than those, some 1911 platforms, and some S&W platforms, there aren't too many options out there (Sig, XD, M&P, etc. don't offer a 10mm version).

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joleary223

Cool, so if you reload and know what your doing you have the room to customize you loads from tame to tiger without blowing your hand off. Am I right?

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That about sums it up. Those links I posted earlier are some fairly hot "factory" loads, but there's still more power available to hand loaders.

BTW, I'm no expert on the 10mm - I've shot it a few times, and have read a lot about it (I've always liked the idea of it), but there are certainly more knowledgeable folks out there. Be sure to let us know if and when you get one - I'd like to see a good range report!

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