Anybody Happy With Plain Old 38 Special Standard Pressure? - Page 3

CR2008 · June 12th, 2008, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mojust

. What's the point in spending a lot of time mastering that kind of recoil when you can just get a nine mil?

38s and .38+ps feel the same to me in my 640... I have not tried magnums yet, probably will try something "light" in the .357mag.

Also, the recoil in my snubby feels a little bit more than my Sig P239 BUT mastering recoil in a heavier round is clearly important in such small revolvers, especially if you want the reliability factor of the revolver over the new fandangle semi autos out today.

Ridgeline · June 12th, 2008, 08:36 PM

This is not difficult... as has been said in previous post, go to the range with your weapon but load it with .38's. Load with .357's for your normal carry, and know you are totally protected.

Eagleks · June 12th, 2008, 10:09 PM

Shoot 38's with some good ammo... and don't worry about it.

delray48209 · June 20th, 2008, 07:45 PM

I use Federal Hyra-Shocks. The key to survival is bullet placement rather than bullet power. If you shoot better with the standard loads, by all means use them.

retsupt99 · June 21st, 2008, 05:26 AM

Use and carry standard loads if that's what you feel comfortable with...if confronted with evil, you will still be able to get your point across...

celticredneck · July 18th, 2008, 04:39 PM

My 1965 model Colt detective special is very happy with standard .38 special loads. because it is not +P rated

Jamie Young · July 18th, 2008, 05:07 PM

Not at all.

Jackle1886 · July 18th, 2008, 05:36 PM

I agree with CR2008, I have shot regular and +P out of my 642, and it feels just the same. So, I shoot +P, it doesn't hurt and it might help. Just my opinion.

Coldwarvet · July 19th, 2008, 12:42 AM

I bought a chrono to find out what rounds were actually printing out of my 642 and PPK/S. After thorough testing of many rounds, I realized that published velocity and ME figures were about 10 per cent high, or even more, when compared with shorter barrel lengths. I settled on these minimum carry loads:

642: 125 gr JHP +P

PPK/S: Corbon 90 gr JHPs.

I've ordered some various .38 rounds to test, but for now am loading the cheap Winnie White Box +P, which prints a nice velocity, indeed. Have Corbon on the way, Buffalo Bore, etc., to test.

Most of the .38s and .380s I tested were woefully lacking in velocity, so much so that I would seriously doubt if the JHPs would even expand. I can't even imagine seriously contemplating self-defense with a standard velocity round out of one of the new subcompacts, like the P3AT. Might as well carry a .22.

Just my two cents. If the weather and clothing permit, I carry a 1911 with 230 gr Corbon JHP, Fed. HST. I want to pack the maximum load I can, to be ready if the need arises. Especially with the 642, every shot better count (you've only got five).

HeadHunter · July 19th, 2008, 05:32 PM

I posted some chrono data here.

June 12th, 2008, 08:36 PM	#22
Ridgeline Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 889	This is not difficult... as has been said in previous post, go to the range with your weapon but load it with .38's. Load with .357's for your normal carry, and know you are totally protected. __________________ "Eternity is Too Long to be Wrong" Texas CHL Instructor & Holder Life Member NRA Member TSRA

June 21st, 2008, 05:26 AM	#25
retsupt99 VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 12,512	Use and carry standard loads if that's what you feel comfortable with...if confronted with evil, you will still be able to get your point across... __________________ ‘‘Four out of five politicians surveyed prefered unarmed, ignorant peasants.’’ — Unknown Liberals are as American as 'dog dodo' pie...

July 18th, 2008, 05:07 PM	#27
Jamie Young Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Posts: 465	Not at all. __________________ Find out about Gun Shows and Training activities. www.TheRallyPoint.org Get your gun club involved!! Free TRP.org stickers RogueElite.netWoolrich Elite Series Distributor

July 18th, 2008, 05:36 PM	#28
Jackle1886 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: MI Posts: 303	I agree with CR2008, I have shot regular and +P out of my 642, and it feels just the same. So, I shoot +P, it doesn't hurt and it might help. Just my opinion. __________________ If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug. (copied from p95carry's sig)

July 19th, 2008, 05:32 PM	#30
HeadHunter Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Hotel Carlton Posts: 36	I posted some chrono data here. __________________ Dry Fire Practice CDs help improve your shooting skills.

June 12th, 2008, 10:09 PM	#23
Eagleks Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 388	Shoot 38's with some good ammo... and don't worry about it.

June 20th, 2008, 07:45 PM	#24
delray48209 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 27	I use Federal Hyra-Shocks. The key to survival is bullet placement rather than bullet power. If you shoot better with the standard loads, by all means use them.

July 18th, 2008, 04:39 PM	#26
celticredneck Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Amelia Virginia Posts: 35	My 1965 model Colt detective special is very happy with standard .38 special loads. because it is not +P rated

July 19th, 2008, 12:42 AM	#29
Coldwarvet Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: VA Posts: 32	I bought a chrono to find out what rounds were actually printing out of my 642 and PPK/S. After thorough testing of many rounds, I realized that published velocity and ME figures were about 10 per cent high, or even more, when compared with shorter barrel lengths. I settled on these minimum carry loads: 642: 125 gr JHP +P PPK/S: Corbon 90 gr JHPs. I've ordered some various .38 rounds to test, but for now am loading the cheap Winnie White Box +P, which prints a nice velocity, indeed. Have Corbon on the way, Buffalo Bore, etc., to test. Most of the .38s and .380s I tested were woefully lacking in velocity, so much so that I would seriously doubt if the JHPs would even expand. I can't even imagine seriously contemplating self-defense with a standard velocity round out of one of the new subcompacts, like the P3AT. Might as well carry a .22. Just my two cents. If the weather and clothing permit, I carry a 1911 with 230 gr Corbon JHP, Fed. HST. I want to pack the maximum load I can, to be ready if the need arises. Especially with the 642, every shot better count (you've only got five).

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