billfromtx

[quote=Rmac58;716866]IIUC, a faster .38 round will not do more damage than a standard .38, or do I have the wrong impression?
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Velocity and weight equals ENERGY...which translates into tissue damage and stopping power.

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1911packer

Why not? As wonderful as the .45 is, it is still a handgun, falling far short of the performance of most rifles and even the .357.

For me, the +P is the same price, I can put rounds on target just as effectively as with standard pressure and it gives me a bit more velocity to help with the expansion and penetration.

If there has been any improvement in Mr. Browning's excellent design in the past 100 years, it has been the production of 1911s that can reliably handle +P hollow points. So, why not take advantage of the improved ammo?

I'm just curious as to what I'm missing here.

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Dusty Miller

The .357mag shoots the same bullet and I believe it is a superior stopper due to a bullet velocity in the 1200+ fps range.

1911packer

I'm not wanting to be argumentative or be a smart a**. I REALLY want to know the downside to carrying .45 +P. It might change my mind.

I can see the problem with a lightweight firearm or for someone who is recoil sensitive.

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Siddigger

This is my first quote so take it with a grain of salt. Nothing will expand in a .38. I feel accuracy is paramount and do not want to go through the house next door. You only want to hit your target. 3 accurate shots are better than one +P any day. That leaves +P out for me in any caliber. I carry lead flat nose SWC in my light weight .38 if not carrying my .45 commander. You can talk all you want about speed, energy and power. That does not take into account a slower flat nose's immediate on the spot energy transfer in real world. Shoot a cat with 22 hollow points. Better have a box handy. No sound of a hit. Shoot it with a lead flat point ( I have a jig and file, but there is SGB by CCI but it is not as flat as I like ) You hear the loud smack (neat) and it drops.

maclean3

Sort of a side note but I've noticed I'm getting a LOT of bullet setback with the 230gr. Speer Gold Dot in my 1911. It's just from doing press checks when I pick it up or carry it (like I do with all my guns) and from rechambering rounds after cleanings. It may be a phenomenal round but I'm dumping these and going back to something with a heavy crimp for my auto loaders, most likely Rem. Golden Sabers.

And no, I use standard pressure .230gr loads in my .45s. I like the "slow and heavy" rounds in my 1911s. I still default to 124gr. +P in my 9mm though.
Jack

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