NY27

I went to the range this morning. I shot a 30 round bullseye course with my G23 .40SW. I did well.

Next I shot my G30 .45ACP. I shot to the right a good bit. So I adjusted the rear sights and was dead on. I was using Federal 185gr +p loads that a friend had given to me. No sense buying ammo when I had some already.

It actually didn't feel too bad while I was shooting it. I went through 100 rounds. Then I shot my 23 again and it felt like a little .22. So I guess those Federal +p loads are pretty hot. I actually spread out my grouping a little bit at 25 yards with the 23 due to the fact that my hand was shaking just a little bit from the .45s.

I know that I will get good COM shots with the +p loads in my 30. But is it really necessary? I was considering maybe just getting some Speer GD 230gr for the 30.

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SilenceDoGood

IMO, +p and +p+ loads are NOT necessary.

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Rmac58

I'll agree, especially in a .45.

1911packer

I wrestled with standard pressure v. +P when deciding on carry ammo for my 1911.
Looking at the Federal HST 230gr, +P offers an additional 60FPS and 57 foot/pounds.

While that doesn't seem like much, since handguns are the weak sisters of firearms and the .45 is marginal when it comes to HP velocity, I went for all I could get.

In the HST, the price is the same, my 1911 is rated for it and recoil is not much different, so why not?

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dsonyay

That particular round is rated very good in gun tests a few years back.
I think Ed Sanow (sp??) wrote a good book about stopping power and mentioned this round at some point. It's a hottie alright.

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NY27

I was just wondering if the +p was necesarry for the .45ACP. I think that I could shoot longer of I use standard loads.

I still do use +p or +p+ loads in 9mm. In my G19 I carry either Speer GD 124gr +p or Fed Hy Shok 115gr +p+.

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billfromtx

for CCW or hunting...
+P's in 45 are NOT necessary.
+p"s in 38 or 9mm are manditory!
in my humble opinion

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crzy4guns

+P's in 45 are NOT necessary.
+P's in 38 or 9mm are mandatory!

Agreed.

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obxned

I like the +P in .45s with less than a 5" barrel. It gives back the velocity that your compact gun lost with its shorter barrel.

In 9mm, I would not use anything less than +P, and if the pistol will handle it, +P+.

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Rmac58

IIUC, a faster .38 round will not do more damage than a standard .38, or do I have the wrong impression?
How about a HP .38?
This is for stopping power, right?
Unless you're shooting through something first, right?