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![]() Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Wabash IN
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Full Report: WWB .45acp HP
Since my pistol is functioning again, I decided to start testing a bit early this year. I have to know that my ammo functions.
![]() Most of you are familiar with my setup by now, 4 layers of denim over the first milk jug. I did not make a movie this time, though it likely would have been fun to watch. ![]() After the shot I found the first jug shredded on the ground. Not pictured was the denim layer, as it's nothing spectacular. ![]() The second jug was blown out... ![]() ... as was the third jug. The fourth jug is leaking in this picture. ![]() The bullet came to rest about halfway through the fourth jug. I did not measure the bullet as I cannot find half my stuff. The jacket did try to separate, and it looks as if the bullet just ignored the effects of the denim. ![]() My deceased grandfather was an intelligence officer in WWII, operating out of England into the European Theater. This picture was taken on one of his GI blankets. You can see the bullet well expanded, next to the silver half dollar. I like this ammo. It's some strange stuff though as the recoil wasn't enough to lock the slide back with an 18.5# spring, while the regular ball WWB is. I returned the spring to stock and it functions fine. I wonder if it's somewhat downloaded. The bottom line is this: After passing through four layers of denim, a Winchester White Box 230 grain hollowpoint round will expand in the first 6" or so of water and continue on for a total of about 21" of penetration in water, or about 10 to 12 inches in gelatin. Not the latest and greatest hollowpoint out there, it is certainly still serviceable. Josh <><
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![]() Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: MS
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Good report!
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Senior Member
![]() Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Colorado
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Good report - thanks! I've not had any issues with my 18.5# spring with anything (so far). Please let us know if you repeat your test and have no problems - it might have been that lot of ammo.
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![]() Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: North Carolina
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Good report. The last few boxes of WWB 230jhp I chronographed seemed to be loaded hotter. They avg'd 896 fps out of 5" 1911 as opposed to 825 fps for GS 230 and 810 for WWB fmj? Don't have the heavier spring & no problems with them in 4 different 45s.
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Member
![]() Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: USA, where else?
Posts: 46
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Good report!
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Member
![]() Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: North Carolina
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Thanks for the report, that is the best load I have found for function and accuracy in my SA Micro-Compact.
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Member
![]() Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: USA, where else?
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Have you ever duplicated this test with other kinds of ammunition for comparison sake?
Will a Gold Dot do any better? DPX? Particularly I'm looking at 45ACP. I know it is expensive, so I'm not asking you to do so, but if you have in the past, please add to this report or post a link??? |
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Member
![]() Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Champaign, Illinois
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Nice to see a test on WWB JHP. This is the stuff I use in my guns because it's cheap and it always goes bang. The expansion isn't anything to write home about but it's better than ball and way better than throwing stones.
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Member
![]() Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: North Carolina
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I'm not sure there is a "bad" 45 jhp.
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Distinguished Member
![]() Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: State of Discombobulation
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Your "test" mirrors what I have found with this ammo.
![]() I don't want to buy 200 Rounds of CorBon to "test" this ammo, so I carry this load in my 1911 as it's cheap enough that I can "test" it's functioning in my guns and while not the greatest ammo, it will get the job done. Biker ![]()
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