Which would you choose and why?

wht06rado · June 10th, 2008, 02:13 PM

I am going to start carrying my Kahr CW9 soon and I can't decide which ammunition I want to carry in it. Either Speer LE Gold Dot 124grn +P or Winchester Ranger Talon 124 grn +P. Both are about the same price so price is not an issue. So, which would you choose and why?

Wht

pgrass101 · June 10th, 2008, 02:16 PM

I carry Gold Dot 124gr standard pressure.

I chose Gold Dot because of past reliable performance.

I like standard pressure rounds out of my autos

tns0038 · June 10th, 2008, 03:10 PM

I carry the Winchester 9mm 127 +P+ in my Glock’s, and while it does have more noticeable recoil, (still on the mild side) the performance in testing puts it in 357 range.

I chose your Winchester over the Speer because Speer LEO bullets jam in my Walther, so I carry the Winchester T’s 380 in it, as well as the Kel-Tec P3AT.

From Winchesters website

Quote:

Winchester 9 mm Luger +P+ (127) Ranger™ ‘T’ Series

Symbol: RA9TA - Winchester Ranger™ ‘T’ Series

Shellcase: 9 mm Luger +P+ nickel plated brass shellcase with cap lacquer.

Bullet: 127 grain, reverse tapered jacket.

Jacket Weight: 28% of total bullet weight.

Powder: Low flash, clean burning.

Primer: Winchester non-corrosive primer.

Accuracy: Product mean of 1.25” Extreme Spread - Five 5-shot targets at 50 yards from a SAAMI standard 4” test barrel.

Velocity: 1240 ft/sec nominal at 15 ft. using a SAAMI standard 4” test barrel (1250 ft/sec muzzle velocity).

Muzzle Energy: 440 ft-lb.

Pressure: Maximum average pressure of 40,000 CUP.

Penetration: 10” minimum in calibrated bare 10% ordnance gelatin.

Bullet Upset: Must exhibit 6 uniform radial jacket petals when fired into bare or clothing barriered calibrated 10% ordnance gelatin.

Ram Rod · June 10th, 2008, 03:52 PM

Speer LE Gold Dot 124 grn +P 9mm
They always work in my Glocks. I've been carrying these ever since I discovered there was such a thing as defensive loads. No good reason to change now.

David in FL · June 10th, 2008, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgrass101

I carry Gold Dot 124gr standard pressure.

I chose Gold Dot because of past reliable performance.

+1. My K9 eats them like potato chips and accuracy is excellent.

retsupt99 · June 10th, 2008, 04:05 PM

Just put in my order for Speer Gold Dot ammo...

MitchellCT · June 10th, 2008, 04:14 PM

Which feeds more reliably in your gun?

Which is more accurate in your gun?

Which costs you less?

wmhawth · June 10th, 2008, 04:19 PM

Couldn't vote. I Don't use +P 9mm ammo. I use Speer 124 grn standard pressure.

wht06rado · June 10th, 2008, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MitchellCT

Which feeds more reliably in your gun?

Which is more accurate in your gun?

Which costs you less?

I don't know yet and cost isn't an issue as they are about the same price.

jframe38 · June 10th, 2008, 10:26 PM

I use the Ranger T's because I have them and it is a great SD ammo. However I would not hesitate to use the GDs as they are also top notch and may be a little easier to get.
The NYC police use the GDs.
So you folks buy up the GDs and leave the T's for me.

View Poll Results: Which would you choose?
Speer LE Gold Dot 124 grn +P 9mm	43	61.43%
Winchester Ranger Talon 124 grn +P 9mm	27	38.57%
Voters: 70. You may not vote on this poll

June 10th, 2008, 02:13 PM	#1
wht06rado Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 775	Which would you choose and why? I am going to start carrying my Kahr CW9 soon and I can't decide which ammunition I want to carry in it. Either Speer LE Gold Dot 124grn +P or Winchester Ranger Talon 124 grn +P. Both are about the same price so price is not an issue. So, which would you choose and why? Wht __________________ “They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security” Benjamin Franklin I'm not pro gun, I'm pro rights. What are you? NRA Member ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

June 10th, 2008, 02:16 PM	#2
pgrass101 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 7,654	I carry Gold Dot 124gr standard pressure. I chose Gold Dot because of past reliable performance. I like standard pressure rounds out of my autos __________________ Noli nothis permittere te terere "If ignorance is bliss then shouldn’t most people happy?" -Thomas Jefferson-

June 10th, 2008, 03:52 PM	#4
Ram Rod VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: crawford county, arkansas Posts: 8,817	Speer LE Gold Dot 124 grn +P 9mm They always work in my Glocks. I've been carrying these ever since I discovered there was such a thing as defensive loads. No good reason to change now. __________________ RamRod-----sans remords live, eat, breathe, sleep Glock

June 10th, 2008, 04:05 PM	#6
retsupt99 VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 22,804	Just put in my order for Speer Gold Dot ammo... __________________ "That I cannot do." "Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks." *********************************** NRA Life Member

June 10th, 2008, 04:14 PM	#7
MitchellCT Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,009	Which feeds more reliably in your gun? Which is more accurate in your gun? Which costs you less?

June 10th, 2008, 04:19 PM	#8
wmhawth Distinguished Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Western Colorado Posts: 1,707	Couldn't vote. I Don't use +P 9mm ammo. I use Speer 124 grn standard pressure. __________________ William

June 10th, 2008, 10:26 PM	#10
jframe38 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: SC Posts: 523	I use the Ranger T's because I have them and it is a great SD ammo. However I would not hesitate to use the GDs as they are also top notch and may be a little easier to get. The NYC police use the GDs. So you folks buy up the GDs and leave the T's for me.

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