LongRider

Golden Saber is a great round what I use in my wife's 380 and used to use in the 45. Until I read about studied and tested Federal HST. Which was not in your test data but Federal HS was there as the best performing round overall. As the HST is the most advanced premium Federal LE ammo available. There is not doubt if that data was updated to include results from the HST it would top the list. From other tests and my experience I was not surprised to se that the talons AKA Rangers results were rather unimpressive overall.

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Remington Golden Sabre 180 gr. , 25 rounds at Ammunition To Go
14.95. or Cheaper Than Dirt 18.97 and use the $10.00 off promo.

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Thanis

My bad. Sorry about my post on this thread. I was off topic and can't edit.

LongRider

Forget there are some pics and good info on .40 on the Federal HST vs, Hydra-Shock pics thread by Sticks

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stormbringerr

i carry federal 165gr hst 40 cal in my xd, and federal 147gr hst in my 9mm sig

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Skygod

It all depends on the price. When Remington Golden Sabre is on sale somewhere then I'll buy a couple of hundred rounds. If Ranger SXT is on sale I'll buy a couple hundred rounds of it. Same goes for Federal Hydra's.

I've got a Sig P228 that is stuffed with Corbon DPX 115 grain +P's sitting here at the desk as I type this.

Makes no difference to me really.

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ada229

I've been carrying with Winchester 155gr Ranger's for years now and probably wouldn't use anything else. The Sheriff's dept that I worked for picked them because of their ability to penetrate auto glass and drywall and retain most of their weight which is a nice feature.

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LongRider

That is almost the exact opposite from the results of these tests done at LEO facilities around the country. They provide a great deal of comparative information of several different brands of ammo including Rangers and HST. Rangers did not do well especially through barriers of any kind. The links are downloadable PDF files so you will need Adobe Acrobat to read them if you do not have Adobe Acrobat . You can download it
Here

Los Angeles County - California
Riverside - California
Santa Clara - California
Fresno County - California
Kern County - California
Sacramento County - California
San Angelo - Texas
Pierce County Workshop - Washington
San Diego County Workshop - California
Portland Police Bureau - Oregon

The following are links to pages with some pretty dramatic pics of different SD ammo from a two different sites. Nothing like seeing the expansion difference side by side. Lots of 9mm pics

ballistics testing - round 1 - varied 9mm JHP's
ballistics testing - round 2 - varied 9mm JHP's
ballistics testing - round 3 - varied 9mm JHP's - shooting through tshirts
ballistics testing - round 5 - comparing 9mm JHP velocities
ballistics testing - round 6 - Federal HST 9mm vs 45 acp
ballistics testing - round 7 - shooting through denim - 9 mm, 45 acp, and 357 magnum

Terminal Ballistics .45 ACP
Terminal Ballistics 9mm

Below is a pic of my rather meager example of HST compared to some other premium SD ammunition. By the time I did this I no longer had any expanded .45 Ranger rounds. To be honest after I shot some HST and compared it to Ranger I was pretty ticked. I had just bought over $200 of Rangers that I ended up shooting at targets. The .45 Rangers look pretty much like the .380 Rangers except larger but not nearly as large as the HST or even the Golden Sabers. Note that the Rangers separated almost 100% of the time

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mustang

I have great luck with

Range choice
American Eagle (Federal) 40 s/w 180 grain
Fiocchi 40 s/w 170 grain

Personal protection
Winchester SXZ 40 s/w 180 grain JHP