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Old November 29th, 2005, 07:50 PM   #1
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Magsafe Ammo

Has anyone had any experience with or heard of any actual results in a real life situation with Magsafe ammo? I don't mean the goat tests. It would only be used in a revolver, so cycling the action is not an issue. Thank you.
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Old November 29th, 2005, 09:12 PM   #2
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First off, Welcome to the forums. I haven't had any experiences with that ammo, but maybe someone will chime in who has.
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Old November 29th, 2005, 11:08 PM   #3
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Same here I am afraid - known of it for ages but never tested. Guess I am too content with my Gold Dots!
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Old November 30th, 2005, 01:50 AM   #4
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I only carry MagSafe or Glaser Silver or RBCD ammo in my ready to fire mag. Backups are usually Federal Hydra-Shok 185gr. I live in south Florida, so it's not much of an issue for me. If I were in the frozen north I probably would stick to the Hydra-Shoks or other more conventional loads until the summer months.
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Old November 30th, 2005, 03:44 PM   #5
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Old December 1st, 2005, 09:57 AM   #6
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Cool Other reasons to carry the frangibles...

Yeah, I have seen this article before and similar data. I carry MagSafe in the primary mags here in South Florida not because they are devastating in "meat" but rather because I live in a fairly high density urban area and the places where I'm likely to have to shoot will have innocent folks in the area. Although I would not shoot with them in my line of fire, there is a very real danger of at least one miss and I worry more about the richochet of an errant round thru an innocent bystander or thru an object like a door than I do the direct miss or the rare T-N-T or Thru-N-Thru gunshot that strikes an innocent bystander directly behind the BG I've just incapacitated. It's moral and legal CYA. If the action continues past the time I'm able to reach solid cover, I'll swap mags (as I would anyway to top off) so I can choose my shots with more precision and a higher degree of confidence.

Besides, this article pretty well stipulates that the presence of an interfering object is what causes the reduction in performance. Well, sure. In a hunting situation, a stray branch in the line of flight for a hunting load can do the same thing. Same for a 5.56mm or even a 9mm when they strike an arm. I'm comfortable with my choices and decisions.
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There's a reason that the FBI stipulated that their ammunition had to penetrate at least 12 inches. Good ammo like Ranger T and Gold Dots will penetrate an arm and still reach a vital area. However it's your life and your decision.
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Been involved in a limited amount of testing of Mag Safe and Glaser ammo. I do not carry either.

That is not to say neither have a place, strictly my feelings.

As far as I know, there have been no documented shootings with Mag Safe.
Several with glaser, with varying degrees of sucess.

IMO, just finding out where your gun will shoot with this high priced ammo, will be costly. I would rather spend the money on practice ammo, and learning how to hit what I am aiming at :))
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Old December 1st, 2005, 08:21 PM   #9
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I carry MagSafe in my snubbie and is the first one up the spout in my autos. If the first hit is a good one I believe the MagSafe will do the trick. If not, well, I guess I will have to continue to shoot.
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Have you seen this about RBCD ammo?
http://www.armedforcesjournal.com/bullets/
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