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Old August 20th, 2008, 04:20 PM   #1
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First, Howdy. Then a Buffalo Bore Question

I'm brand new here, and it even amazes me that my first post on here would involve a .380. It's certainly not my primary EDC, but I picked up a Ruger LCP recently. I've been carrying Hornady's 95gr HP. But I read an article in the last Handgunner where John Taffin mentioned that Buffalo Bore has now released a line of very hot (like 1100-1150 fps from a Kel-Tec) .380 ammunition. I've ordered a couple of boxes. Probably will be in today. Taffin spoke very highly of them though he said controllability became a factor. I've never had much problem with hot loads out of small guns, but we'll see.

I figure a steady diet of something that hot in a pistol this small would be a bad thing. But for carry purposes, after I put a box through it to make sure it likes the stuff, that's what I'm going to load it with. Anybody have any info on these loads? They're 90grs as opposed to 95 but they're faster. BTW, I'm long-winded, so bear with the newbie here.
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Old August 20th, 2008, 10:17 PM   #2
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Welcome from New York... By the way I am looking for a good carry ammo for my LCP, shoot me a private message and let me know how they work for you. Thanks.
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Old August 20th, 2008, 10:26 PM   #3
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No specific info but, all of the BuffaloBore offerings are very high quality (& extremely reliable) ammunition.

Oh...& thanks for posting. Now keep right on posting...your comments in other threads are always welcome.
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Old August 20th, 2008, 10:52 PM   #4
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.380acp

The best advice for the .380 Ruger or Kel-Tec (I have the Kel-Tec) is to load ammo for rapid recovery and firing multiple rounds.

The extra 1-inch of penetration from a hot load is in my opinion less important than putting more lead on target fast. It’s unlikely that you will control shot placement real well under the stress of a gunfight. I’m not advocating spray and pray, just rapid recovery and multiple rounds on target.

I just loaded 1,000-rounds of factory new .380acp for a repeat customer using the 102gr GoldenSaber in StarLine brass.

He has the Ruger LCP. He has since ordered and just received 1,000-rounds using the same philosophy in .40s&w with 165gr GS and SL brass (both calibers were loaded with greater precision than, and at a lower cost than "off the shelf" ammo).

Here is a wet pack test of some popular .380acp.




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Old August 20th, 2008, 11:32 PM   #5
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I carry Buffalo Bore 100 gr hardcast ammo in my Mustang 1125 fps / 281 Ft Lbs. It's still a really soft caliber - controllability is NOT an issue. Their .357 load will put you back a little, though.
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Old August 20th, 2008, 11:36 PM   #6
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Old August 20th, 2008, 11:37 PM   #7
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Welcome also from New York. I use Fiocchi XTP Hollow Point in my LCP. Put through many boxes already with no problems.
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Old August 21st, 2008, 01:33 AM   #8
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I thought Buffalo Bore ammo was too hot for the Kel-Tec P3AT. According to the manual on our 2 P3ATs +P ammo shouldn't be used. I've got a Bersa Thunder380 CC that I use Corbon ammo in if I want to carry something light with +P ammo but it's been quite some time since I carried a .380. A friends 20 something son was recently shot 3 times by a guy that broke into his house and a couple of months later he was finally getting one of the bullets in his chest removed. I never did find out the whole story or what was involved (drugs?) but I was not impressed with what the .380 did. My wife and daughter prefer the lightness of the .380 and I wish I could get them to carry something bigger but I guess it's better then nothing.
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I normally carry a Sig Pro .40 in a Crossbreed IWB but when necessary will switch to:
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One of the guns Buffalo Bore tested the ammo on was a KelTec.

Buffalo Bore 380
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