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Location: A Blue State
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124 gr. vs. 147 gr.?
My intuition likes 124 gr. 9mm over 147 gr., but feel free to discuss, if you like. Also, a gratuitous comment about standard or +P never hurt anyone. I currently shoot 124 gr. +P Ranger T and will prolly go with GD's next time if I can't find Winchesters.
Thanks.
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Location: Texas
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Do the 124's work in your gun reliably? Is your gun rated for +P ammo, if so, then your good to go.
Use what your gun is rated for and what works reliably. Those are two of the most important factors. Learn to shoot what you carry. There is only 30lbs of energy difference between the Ranger T +P and the GD +P in the 124 gr. Both manufacturers have good reputations for defensive rounds. Basically if your using a proven round it boils down to a matter of choice. My choice is the Speer over Win Ranger because they are available more places, but in standard pressures.
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Location: tucson
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I went from 147 Golden Sabers to 124's, more controllable and never saw a big benefit of +P. 23 grains is not a big difference, and 147 is slower.less controllable. I think the extra FPS of 124 makes for a better expansion too.
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Location: Jefferson City, MO
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I carry Federal HST 147grs. Accurate and great ballistic reports. I've considered the 124's, but the 147's have better penetration.
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Location: Cadiz,Ky
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IMHO a heavier bullet defeats the strong point of the 9mm---speed.
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Location: Rowlett, Texas
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I'm kind of "Can you hit what you are aiming at ?" If you can put a couple of holes in your target. I don't get real hung up on the weight. That my nickels worth.
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Location: Michigan
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147s have deeper expansion cavities that don't get so easily clogged with clothing. Clogging turns a jhp into ball ammo, increasing penetration (and risking over-penetration?) and decreasing expansion.
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Location: Southeast
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Federal HST 147gr. This weight allows for better penetration and HST expands the best.
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Location: CT
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I carry 147gr HST in all my carry guns (Kahr PM9, HK P7, CZ P-01) and it has worked reliably in all of them and is easy to shoot for me. The modern 147gr loads have come a long way and work great.
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![]() Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Alabama
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I use 124gr Gold Dots because they have been reliable
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