Fed. low recoil ammo

rocky · January 9th, 2006, 07:42 PM

picked up some Federal Hydrashok ammo. Labeled low recoil, personal defense. These rounds seem to work well thru my 1911 and the box advertises 1020 Ft-per sec. at 25 yrds. This may vary from gun to gun of course. The ammo is 165 grn JHP's. Seems accurate enough, and the recoil is quite mild and easy for follow up shots. Over all I am happy with the performance of this ammo.

Redneck Repairs · January 9th, 2006, 08:00 PM

never saw a hydra shock i didnt like personaly LOL

P95Carry · January 9th, 2006, 09:31 PM

Hmmm - that equates to 380 ft lbs. Seems to me pretty close to what we'd get from a regular 230 grain load.

Interesting result - and still wondering how they make it recoil friendly while still (apparently) getting useable power factor. Wonder if they reduce peak pressure with a slower powder - sorta ''spread'' the high pressure phase of combustion. I guess too the bullet weight helps.

Redneck Repairs · January 9th, 2006, 10:24 PM

/think the ft lbs are a game , look at 38 super and 9x21 both make major without the recoil of a .45 , effective???? well ill fall back to placement and it makes no real differance once ya break the .380/38 special barrior lol

rocky · January 9th, 2006, 10:31 PM

I see it as what will make a large wound cavity? What is less likely to over penetrate? It all comes down to shot placement and a bit of luck. Deepnding on what the bullet strikes and how much damage it does. Caliber makes less diffrence than bullet performance.

SOLOLUCKY · January 10th, 2006, 12:09 PM

I shot these out of my 38 snub.
compared to standard ammo of the same weight (158 gr. i think)
the recoil form the fed hydrashock ammo had more perceived recoil than the standard stuff. maybe i was shooting 'weak' standard ammo compared to the high-end fed stuff but it hit my wrist harder.
just my 2cents worth in regards to my 38.
another consideration to "defense' ammo is it's low flash.
so i'll spend the extra $$ on it.

NaturalSelection · January 11th, 2006, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Redneck Repairs

never saw a hydra shock i didnt like personaly

i would trust most any modern round designed for self defense. my personal preference however, involves 230 grains and +P designation. while the recoil may be a little more, ive found that its still completely controllable. ive never really understood why federal doesnt make the hydrashok in a +P round. ive grown to really like corbon. they push the pressures about as far as i consider safe and reasonable.

rocky · January 11th, 2006, 08:12 AM

My reasons against +P . Over penetration issues. More felt recoil. Harder on the gun.

TonyW · January 11th, 2006, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by rocky

My reasons against +P . Over penetration issues. More felt recoil. Harder on the gun.

And I think that most modern, well-made standard pressure self-defense ammo gets the job done quite well. Therefore no need for +P and the negatives that it brings.

Just my .02

CLASS3NH · January 11th, 2006, 12:43 PM

The Hydra Shok Subsonics work well also.........Might want to look into those for less felt recoil They get good expansion, without over-penetration

January 9th, 2006, 07:42 PM	#1
rocky Senior Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MI Posts: 11,767	Fed. low recoil ammo picked up some Federal Hydrashok ammo. Labeled low recoil, personal defense. These rounds seem to work well thru my 1911 and the box advertises 1020 Ft-per sec. at 25 yrds. This may vary from gun to gun of course. The ammo is 165 grn JHP's. Seems accurate enough, and the recoil is quite mild and easy for follow up shots. Over all I am happy with the performance of this ammo.

January 9th, 2006, 09:31 PM	#3
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,366	Hmmm - that equates to 380 ft lbs. Seems to me pretty close to what we'd get from a regular 230 grain load. Interesting result - and still wondering how they make it recoil friendly while still (apparently) getting useable power factor. Wonder if they reduce peak pressure with a slower powder - sorta ''spread'' the high pressure phase of combustion. I guess too the bullet weight helps. __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

January 10th, 2006, 12:09 PM	#6
SOLOLUCKY Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ROSS OHIO Posts: 501	I shot these out of my 38 snub. compared to standard ammo of the same weight (158 gr. i think) the recoil form the fed hydrashock ammo had more perceived recoil than the standard stuff. maybe i was shooting 'weak' standard ammo compared to the high-end fed stuff but it hit my wrist harder. just my 2cents worth in regards to my 38. another consideration to "defense' ammo is it's low flash. so i'll spend the extra $$ on it. __________________ R1 This is mine. That is yours. Lets keep it that way.

January 11th, 2006, 12:43 PM	#10
CLASS3NH VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Southern New Hampshire Posts: 2,565	The Hydra Shok Subsonics work well also.........Might want to look into those for less felt recoil They get good expansion, without over-penetration __________________ Why Waltz when you can Rock-N-Roll

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January 9th, 2006, 08:00 PM	#2
Redneck Repairs VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,141	never saw a hydra shock i didnt like personaly LOL

January 9th, 2006, 10:24 PM	#4
Redneck Repairs VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,141	/think the ft lbs are a game , look at 38 super and 9x21 both make major without the recoil of a .45 , effective???? well ill fall back to placement and it makes no real differance once ya break the .380/38 special barrior lol

January 9th, 2006, 10:31 PM	#5
rocky Senior Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MI Posts: 11,767	I see it as what will make a large wound cavity? What is less likely to over penetrate? It all comes down to shot placement and a bit of luck. Deepnding on what the bullet strikes and how much damage it does. Caliber makes less diffrence than bullet performance.

January 11th, 2006, 08:12 AM	#8
rocky Senior Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MI Posts: 11,767	My reasons against +P . Over penetration issues. More felt recoil. Harder on the gun.