Walmart Ammo Supplies Dwindling (Merged) - Page 10

Gideon · January 22nd, 2009, 07:49 PM

Don't know if someone suggested this previously but from my manufactuering background, I'd suggest that ammo makers are running at capacity and adding shifts, etc. to boost capacityto take advantage of this market opportunity.

The customers (us

) started a surge in demand because of anticipation/fear due to the elections. The demand was ahead of any surge in production so it produced empty shelves. This pushed other buyers (more of us

) to start thinking we should buy to and it created an upward spiral in demand that mfg's haven't been able to catch up to.

During a time like this, (a seller's market) sellers will divert inventory (to the degree they're able) to higher margin business. So if you can't meet customer demand (the retail guys) you choose who to supply as inventory becomes available.

It's a game of sorts but you don't want to make a good customer (Walmart; good customer for base business to the ammo guy even if the margin's stink) mad.

So I suspect it's simply demand outstripping supply throughout the use which is why the replenishment cycle (days between delieveries) is more than normal at wally world.

I work in a manufactuering environment that sells packagin to customer's who package their product with our packaging and put it on the shelves of Walmart. I know for a fact (from my customers) that if that product doesn't sell Walmart is NOT stuck with it. In fact, Walmart doesn't even get invoiced for these products until some point AFTER they sell the inventory. they have the best payment terms in the world.

No ammo might be different than diapers, frozen food, pet food, potting soil etc. and there may be laws that require them to take title of that inventory right away. So I don't know for sure, however, I think this is just a big sucking sound caused by demand.

Persoally I don't think Obama will go after manufactuer's as much as he'll attempt to limit individual rights to own under the guise of "reasonable gun control".

My .02 and I'm not sure it's worth even that....

Leopard125 · January 22nd, 2009, 08:02 PM

My W_mart some what stocked to day.
.40,.45, no 9mm.

wjh2657 · January 22nd, 2009, 08:23 PM

GIDEON's reply makes sense. I'll just buy a few more rounds if I can find them and wait it out. The market itself will fight any big increases in taxes , these folks have to sell their product to make money and they want to make money. If prices get too high the market will shrink. The gasoline folks almost did it last year. People just started buying less gas and finding other ways to get places. Less gas got sold and strategy backfired. A couple of decades ago the same thing happened with beef. Prices went sky high, houswives rebelled and now we eat more turkey, chicken and pork than we used to and beef never has recovered its old market.
If they had left the banks alone, they would have eaten each other and then stabilized. This would have happened faster than the forced recovery by bailout. Market will take care of itself, people have to make money!

I look for some of the Brady stuff to come back but I don't think we are going to end up another Great Britain. People with guns that shoot 10 shots or less will be unaffected and the others will have to wait it out for another switch in administrations. It's the American Game and we are going to live in it. Is this right under the 2d Amendment, certainly not, but it is reality. I will continue to pay my NRA dues and try to elect gun-friendly reps, but that is really all any of us can do.

TedBeau · January 23rd, 2009, 01:53 PM

I have been checking two or three times a week for about 1-1/2 months. They were getting low on 40 caliber last week, someone bought the 250 round jumbo box of UMC about two weeks ago.
They still had quite a lot of 9mm and 40 Cal in blazer brass but have been low or out of winchester.

They have been out of 38 special for a month, I bought the last box of 100 then.

Last night they had two boxes of WWB 100 count in 38 special, some 45 and a little more 40 cal and 9mm. Still far from full display case, but its getting better.

nlax2011 · January 23rd, 2009, 01:59 PM

The only 9mm mine had two days ago was a few boxes of blazer. Wait it out I guess.

AllAmerican · January 23rd, 2009, 02:59 PM

I just went into my local WM and they had a nice supply of WWB in 9mm. The counter girl said it came in last night and it ends up being WWB one week and Remington the next.

I didnt need it really but I bought a 100 count box..

Most of the other stuff was sold out but the WWB in all calibers was there.

Ram Rod · January 23rd, 2009, 03:58 PM

One of my local Wally Worlds had plenty of 9mm Blazer Brass today so I picked up some of course. Same low price of $8.97 per 50ct box.

Wasabi · January 24th, 2009, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ram Rod

One of my local Wally Worlds had plenty of 9mm Blazer Brass today so I picked up some of course. Same low price of $8.97 per 50ct box.

Yeah, I've actually been finding a bunch of Blazer Brass lately. I haven't seen WWB for a while. At $8.97 a box, I'll keep buying up the Blazer Brass. I haven't shot any yet though. Hopefully my PM9 eats it as well as WWB.

blankman · January 24th, 2009, 07:49 AM

Haven't seen any of the Blazer around here, but everything is available in WWB, overall stock is higher now than it has been for the last few months.

SnubMan · January 24th, 2009, 12:14 PM

Bought 1000 rounds of WWB at Walmart yesterday but that did clean out their stock of 9mm. No 38 SPL

. They did have a ton .40 though. I think I'll just keep checking weekly.

January 22nd, 2009, 07:49 PM	#91
Gideon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,197	Don't know if someone suggested this previously but from my manufactuering background, I'd suggest that ammo makers are running at capacity and adding shifts, etc. to boost capacityto take advantage of this market opportunity. The customers (us ) started a surge in demand because of anticipation/fear due to the elections. The demand was ahead of any surge in production so it produced empty shelves. This pushed other buyers (more of us ) to start thinking we should buy to and it created an upward spiral in demand that mfg's haven't been able to catch up to. During a time like this, (a seller's market) sellers will divert inventory (to the degree they're able) to higher margin business. So if you can't meet customer demand (the retail guys) you choose who to supply as inventory becomes available. It's a game of sorts but you don't want to make a good customer (Walmart; good customer for base business to the ammo guy even if the margin's stink) mad. So I suspect it's simply demand outstripping supply throughout the use which is why the replenishment cycle (days between delieveries) is more than normal at wally world. I work in a manufactuering environment that sells packagin to customer's who package their product with our packaging and put it on the shelves of Walmart. I know for a fact (from my customers) that if that product doesn't sell Walmart is NOT stuck with it. In fact, Walmart doesn't even get invoiced for these products until some point AFTER they sell the inventory. they have the best payment terms in the world. No ammo might be different than diapers, frozen food, pet food, potting soil etc. and there may be laws that require them to take title of that inventory right away. So I don't know for sure, however, I think this is just a big sucking sound caused by demand. Persoally I don't think Obama will go after manufactuer's as much as he'll attempt to limit individual rights to own under the guise of "reasonable gun control". My .02 and I'm not sure it's worth even that.... __________________ God Bless Gideon Jer 33:3

January 22nd, 2009, 08:23 PM	#93
wjh2657 Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lafayette, Tennessee Posts: 528	GIDEON's reply makes sense. I'll just buy a few more rounds if I can find them and wait it out. The market itself will fight any big increases in taxes , these folks have to sell their product to make money and they want to make money. If prices get too high the market will shrink. The gasoline folks almost did it last year. People just started buying less gas and finding other ways to get places. Less gas got sold and strategy backfired. A couple of decades ago the same thing happened with beef. Prices went sky high, houswives rebelled and now we eat more turkey, chicken and pork than we used to and beef never has recovered its old market. If they had left the banks alone, they would have eaten each other and then stabilized. This would have happened faster than the forced recovery by bailout. Market will take care of itself, people have to make money! I look for some of the Brady stuff to come back but I don't think we are going to end up another Great Britain. People with guns that shoot 10 shots or less will be unaffected and the others will have to wait it out for another switch in administrations. It's the American Game and we are going to live in it. Is this right under the 2d Amendment, certainly not, but it is reality. I will continue to pay my NRA dues and try to elect gun-friendly reps, but that is really all any of us can do. __________________ " A man has got to know his limitations!" Inspector Harry Callihan, SFPD

January 23rd, 2009, 01:53 PM	#94
TedBeau Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bay City Posts: 411	my local walmart I have been checking two or three times a week for about 1-1/2 months. They were getting low on 40 caliber last week, someone bought the 250 round jumbo box of UMC about two weeks ago. They still had quite a lot of 9mm and 40 Cal in blazer brass but have been low or out of winchester. They have been out of 38 special for a month, I bought the last box of 100 then. Last night they had two boxes of WWB 100 count in 38 special, some 45 and a little more 40 cal and 9mm. Still far from full display case, but its getting better.

January 23rd, 2009, 02:59 PM	#96
AllAmerican VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Chesterfield, Kakalaki del Sur Posts: 2,401	I just went into my local WM and they had a nice supply of WWB in 9mm. The counter girl said it came in last night and it ends up being WWB one week and Remington the next. I didnt need it really but I bought a 100 count box.. Most of the other stuff was sold out but the WWB in all calibers was there. __________________ My Music: www.reverbnation.com/dickiefredericks New tunes added. "The Double Tap Center Mass Boogie. Learn it, know it, love it, shoot it. Good guys should live, bad guys not so much. " - Ted Nugent 09

January 23rd, 2009, 03:58 PM	#97
Ram Rod VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: crawford county, arkansas Posts: 8,643	One of my local Wally Worlds had plenty of 9mm Blazer Brass today so I picked up some of course. Same low price of $8.97 per 50ct box. __________________ RamRod-----sans remords live, eat, breathe, sleep Glock

January 22nd, 2009, 08:02 PM	#92
Leopard125 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Mexico USA Posts: 113	My W_mart some what stocked to day. .40,.45, no 9mm.

January 23rd, 2009, 01:59 PM	#95
nlax2011 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: FL Posts: 156	The only 9mm mine had two days ago was a few boxes of blazer. Wait it out I guess.

January 24th, 2009, 07:49 AM	#99
blankman New Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Washington Posts: 3	Haven't seen any of the Blazer around here, but everything is available in WWB, overall stock is higher now than it has been for the last few months.

January 24th, 2009, 12:14 PM	#100
SnubMan Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: PA Posts: 150	Bought 1000 rounds of WWB at Walmart yesterday but that did clean out their stock of 9mm. No 38 SPL . They did have a ton .40 though. I think I'll just keep checking weekly.

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