.38 vs. .380 The battle of the mouseguns! - Page 2

artz · February 5th, 2006, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Redneck Repairs

i have carried it as primairy on many occations due to convience of the pistol , not because i considered it a good stopper , that being said it beats hell outa a stern look and harsh words.

amen....thats the reason mousguns exist, convience...

chiefs-special-guy · February 5th, 2006, 09:08 AM

i carry a 38 snubbie, and it certainly seems adequate to me. one problem with these sorts of discussions is that no one would select such a gun to go to a battle with, of course. so i suppose it would depend on just what you think you are up against. as an offensive weapon, no 380 or 38 is going to be selected.but for the last line of defense, both seem adequate at 10 feet.
and.. revolvers are way cooler than semiautos....

God Bless.

BCurry1 · February 5th, 2006, 09:49 AM

I dont remember where i hear it, but a man once said, "I would rather be shot in the leg with a .45acp, than a .22lr in the head." I have always believed that if you have a gun, no matter what caliber, you are better off than the guy without a gun. Just my .02.

artz · February 5th, 2006, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefs-special-guy

no 380 or 38 is going to be selected.but for the last line of defense, both seem adequate at 10 feet.

knowing that I had time to prepare for a battle, I would have a 12 ga. shotgun and a small hi-capacity carbine, but as for portability in the last line of defense the .38 or .380 should just be fine... I say this knowing that I have never been in a gunfight.

NaturalSelection · February 5th, 2006, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen A. Camp

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paknheat · February 5th, 2006, 03:41 PM

in my youth growing up in S.Calif. I knew a man who was a fed. l.e.o.He was once shot in the head by a drug smugglling b.g . The b.g.was armed with a little .380 pistol. The force of the impact to his head nor the wound did not stop him as he was able to draw his duty weapon and return fire, killing the suspect instantly. My l.e.o. friend was armed with a 2''Colt python.357 loaded with .38Sp. ammo made by Hi-Vel,Any one remember them?The .380 bullet he was struck with was a FMJ. and all it did was knock a big nasty gash in his head. Ny friend went to the hospital and the b.g went to the L.A. county mourge. This happened back in the 70's. Flash foreward to the mid90"s .I am working for the Tx dept of Corrections and my partner his a N.D. with hisB.U.G. it is a .380 Bersa loaded with PMC Starfireammo. This round penetrated his living room wall, the outside wall, composed of cinder block, and proceeded to blow out the lt front tire on his pick-up truck. I guess what i am trying to say is that if your"mouse gun " is fed right it can bite as hard as a big old nasty sewer rat.

ExSoldier · February 5th, 2006, 05:10 PM

I'll take a .38 sp over the 9mm Kurtz anyday. The 380 is a viable option to a stern look and harsh words as somebody further up the thread mentions, but so is a .22LR and some decent shot placement. I used to have a Beretta M84 in 380 (it was the wife's 1st gun) until my wife demanded I get rid of it and giver her MY 45 Government model! That was not gonna happen so I sold the M84 and got her a 45 Commander and it's good ever since.

paknheat · February 5th, 2006, 05:55 PM

Ex -your wife has excellent tate sir.

Sheldon J · February 5th, 2006, 06:42 PM

Definately the .38 there are some really hot +P stuff avilable. The .380 while a nice carry gun just is not very hot even in +P.

ExSoldier · February 5th, 2006, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by paknheat

made by Hi-Vel,Any one remember them?

I think you're referring to Super-Vel and I have about 500 rds of 45ACP in Super-Vel with the Speer 200 gr "Flying Ashtray" bullets.

February 5th, 2006, 09:08 AM	#12
chiefs-special-guy Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: alabama Posts: 248	i carry a 38 snubbie, and it certainly seems adequate to me. one problem with these sorts of discussions is that no one would select such a gun to go to a battle with, of course. so i suppose it would depend on just what you think you are up against. as an offensive weapon, no 380 or 38 is going to be selected.but for the last line of defense, both seem adequate at 10 feet. and.. revolvers are way cooler than semiautos.... God Bless. __________________ Six for sure...Uh, I mean Five. Five for sure..

February 5th, 2006, 09:49 AM	#13
BCurry1 Distinguished Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,316	I dont remember where i hear it, but a man once said, "I would rather be shot in the leg with a .45acp, than a .22lr in the head." I have always believed that if you have a gun, no matter what caliber, you are better off than the guy without a gun. Just my .02. __________________ Curry

February 5th, 2006, 05:10 PM	#17
ExSoldier VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Coral Gables, FL Posts: 4,167	I'll take a .38 sp over the 9mm Kurtz anyday. The 380 is a viable option to a stern look and harsh words as somebody further up the thread mentions, but so is a .22LR and some decent shot placement. I used to have a Beretta M84 in 380 (it was the wife's 1st gun) until my wife demanded I get rid of it and giver her MY 45 Government model! That was not gonna happen so I sold the M84 and got her a 45 Commander and it's good ever since. __________________ Former Infantry Captain; 20 yrs as an NRA Certified Instructor; Avid practitioner of the martial art: KLIK-PAO.

February 5th, 2006, 06:42 PM	#19
Sheldon J Distinguished Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Battle Creek, Mi. Posts: 1,654	Definately the .38 there are some really hot +P stuff avilable. The .380 while a nice carry gun just is not very hot even in +P. __________________ "The sword dose not cause the murder, and the maker of the sword dose not bear sin" Rabbi Solomon ben Isaac 11th century

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February 5th, 2006, 03:41 PM	#16
paknheat Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 248	in my youth growing up in S.Calif. I knew a man who was a fed. l.e.o.He was once shot in the head by a drug smugglling b.g . The b.g.was armed with a little .380 pistol. The force of the impact to his head nor the wound did not stop him as he was able to draw his duty weapon and return fire, killing the suspect instantly. My l.e.o. friend was armed with a 2''Colt python.357 loaded with .38Sp. ammo made by Hi-Vel,Any one remember them?The .380 bullet he was struck with was a FMJ. and all it did was knock a big nasty gash in his head. Ny friend went to the hospital and the b.g went to the L.A. county mourge. This happened back in the 70's. Flash foreward to the mid90"s .I am working for the Tx dept of Corrections and my partner his a N.D. with hisB.U.G. it is a .380 Bersa loaded with PMC Starfireammo. This round penetrated his living room wall, the outside wall, composed of cinder block, and proceeded to blow out the lt front tire on his pick-up truck. I guess what i am trying to say is that if your"mouse gun " is fed right it can bite as hard as a big old nasty sewer rat.

February 5th, 2006, 05:55 PM	#18
paknheat Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 248	Ex -your wife has excellent tate sir.