45 acp question - Page 2

acparmed · February 22nd, 2006, 04:45 AM

I stick with Federal 230gr HydraShoks as well. In street reports on actual shootings the 230 HydraShok has a 92% one shot stop record. It functions well in my guns and all the terminal ballistics tests I've conducted in wet newsprint has the bullet expanding just as advertised. I even fired one through a "bullet resistant" window that was given to me for that purpose. I had to tell them to go back to the drawing board. After I dug the bullet out of the dirt hillside, I measured it and found that even after passing through the window and then into the dry dirt, it measured .68 cal and retained 94% of it's original weight.

Just my opinion, but that's the kind of bullet I want in my defensive handgun.

ecbaatz · February 22nd, 2006, 08:35 PM

Steve, guess I missed that in your book. But I was close, it was "re" designed for 230 gr. Thanks for the correction.

Eric

PatrioticRick · February 22nd, 2006, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecbaatz

IIRC the 1911 was designed for a 230 gr balll bullet. I feel that is good enough for me to stay with 230 gr. I do carry hollow points for defense, of course they are still 230 gr.

Eric

+1

Use Winchester Target/Range FMJ 230 gr for practise $19.97 for 100 at Wally World

maclean3 · March 16th, 2006, 04:01 PM

I prefer 230gr JHP as well. Among others, I've used Fed. Hydrashoks, Win. SXT (civvie version), Rem. GS and have plans to test drive the Speer GD. All those I've tried so far have fed and functioned well in my guns and honestly, I'd feel well armed with any of those loads - just because the Hydrashok is older doesn't mean it doesn't still work.

The only .45 I've owned that REQUIRED 185gr. +P to function properly was my stainless SA Ultra compact Hi-cap (3.5" barrel). I bought it NIB and it was probably the tightest fit 1911 I've owned to date. 500 to 800 rounds of ball and some minor lapping probably would've overcome the cycling problems but I'm just not that patient so I eventually traded it off.

As for UMC ammo: I've never tried the JHP (didn't even know they made one) but use to shoot a lot of the their 230gr. FMJ. I quit using it 5 or 6 years ago when I started noticing a lot of bullet set back (in my 5" Colt). I can't say if it's a case mouth diameter problem, lack of crimp or some other unknown factor but I value my guns and my health more than the extra buck or so per box it takes to avoid risking a case rupture. Take that for whatever it's worth, many others here have much more shooting experience than I do.
Jack

February 22nd, 2006, 04:45 AM	#11
acparmed 1952 - 2006 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 1,371	I stick with Federal 230gr HydraShoks as well. In street reports on actual shootings the 230 HydraShok has a 92% one shot stop record. It functions well in my guns and all the terminal ballistics tests I've conducted in wet newsprint has the bullet expanding just as advertised. I even fired one through a "bullet resistant" window that was given to me for that purpose. I had to tell them to go back to the drawing board. After I dug the bullet out of the dirt hillside, I measured it and found that even after passing through the window and then into the dry dirt, it measured .68 cal and retained 94% of it's original weight. Just my opinion, but that's the kind of bullet I want in my defensive handgun. __________________ Heroes are people who do what has to be done, when it has to be done, regardless of the consequences "I like when the enemy shoots at me; then I know where the ****** are and can kill them." ~George Patton DE OPPRESSO LIBER**

February 22nd, 2006, 08:35 PM	#12
ecbaatz Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Edwardsburg, MI Posts: 158	200 not 230 Steve, guess I missed that in your book. But I was close, it was "re" designed for 230 gr. Thanks for the correction. Eric

March 16th, 2006, 04:01 PM	#14
maclean3 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,876	I prefer 230gr JHP as well. Among others, I've used Fed. Hydrashoks, Win. SXT (civvie version), Rem. GS and have plans to test drive the Speer GD. All those I've tried so far have fed and functioned well in my guns and honestly, I'd feel well armed with any of those loads - just because the Hydrashok is older doesn't mean it doesn't still work. The only .45 I've owned that REQUIRED 185gr. +P to function properly was my stainless SA Ultra compact Hi-cap (3.5" barrel). I bought it NIB and it was probably the tightest fit 1911 I've owned to date. 500 to 800 rounds of ball and some minor lapping probably would've overcome the cycling problems but I'm just not that patient so I eventually traded it off. As for UMC ammo: I've never tried the JHP (didn't even know they made one) but use to shoot a lot of the their 230gr. FMJ. I quit using it 5 or 6 years ago when I started noticing a lot of bullet set back (in my 5" Colt). I can't say if it's a case mouth diameter problem, lack of crimp or some other unknown factor but I value my guns and my health more than the extra buck or so per box it takes to avoid risking a case rupture. Take that for whatever it's worth, many others here have much more shooting experience than I do. Jack __________________ "The sheep are everywhere. We are raising up a nation of cannon fodder types and we are screwed." HotGuns

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