Anyone see Modern Marvels about Bullets?

ArmyCop · March 8th, 2006, 04:03 PM

Late last night (3/7/06) I saw part of the show where a special bullet would go through a steel plate and leave a small hole but when shot through a chunk of meat it expanded and blew the meat apart.
Anyone see this - have any links for more info about that bullet?

paknheat · March 10th, 2006, 10:28 PM

Hello ArmyCop, I am watching it right now,3/10/06. I taped it because it was running the same night as my Haganah class.Really cool info, I like the concept of the smart bullet. The whole thing is making my trigger finger itchy.

P95Carry · March 10th, 2006, 10:37 PM

Not sure but - is this the Xtreme Shock (tungsten powder filled) deal?

Pakn - give some feedback when you get to see the tape.

paknheat · March 10th, 2006, 11:10 PM

95, There are two different smart bullet types they talked about, neither are available to us civilian types. One is manufactured by Le Mas . It uses a blended smart metal type of technology that will enable the bullet, pistol or rifle, to totally penetrate plate metal armor.The neat trick is this same bullet, when recognizing that it is now in flesh will fragment with such a force that it "explodes."Thus there is no more over penetration . The other was Army experiment . It comes in two flavors,5.56 and 20mm They are computer programmed , Thru a firing control system in the weapon itself, to travel a certian distance and air burst over the target. They are trying to perfect these two to travel around corners. It was impressive on video. It is a shame that Le Mas caters this round to LEO & Military sales. It would be the perfect CCW round , and it comes in my current favorite , 10mm.

P95Carry · March 10th, 2006, 11:15 PM

Thx for info - yep - ''blended metal'' seems one way to go for extreme results.

The other computer controlled (so called) have me so far wondering juts how they do it all!!

paknheat · March 10th, 2006, 11:39 PM

I think its all an ancient chinese secret, or maybe VooDoo.Its the govt. if they told ud they'ed have to kill us. LOL. The "rifle" they were shooting thes things out of were cumbersome looking things . They were basiclly a guided missle launcher that was shrunk.There is a microscopic chip in the base of the"bullet" and the computer feeds the range info into the bullet @ firing. When it reached its pre-determined coordinites it air bursts above the soft targets and shreds them up,and intresting enough they will penetrate obstrutions to get where they need to go. Whitetail season just would'nt be the same with this though.LOL.

Sheldon J · March 11th, 2006, 12:37 PM

for home use that stuff is suppose to shoot through a car door or level II but yet go all over the place when it hits soft tissue. Up here in Mi the gun shops will not sell it to and individual unless they are CPL or LEO. There are a lot of nice ammo choices out there but the stuff the MIL has leaves any thing we have in the dust.

Pointblank · March 13th, 2006, 08:09 PM

That performance sounds a lot like what CorBon DPX actually has done in tests on clothed gelatin and barriers.

Rock and Glock · March 13th, 2006, 08:37 PM

Hey Pointblank! Welcome to CC, and thanks for posting! Have ya popped over to "Introductions" and into'd yourself? Welcome!

ExSoldier · March 14th, 2006, 03:17 PM

Supposedly the RBCD round is blended metal technology and they sell to the public. http://www.rbcd.net There are lots of conflicting stories about this company and it's product. My good buddy who IIRC has made 06 (Full Colonel) in Special Forces swears by them. I have them in my spare mags for my 40. I can't find them at a gun show for my 45. I did find this one box of 20rds for just about $20. Normally they sell 20rds for $50!

March 8th, 2006, 04:03 PM	#1
ArmyCop Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Chickasaw, AL Posts: 695	Anyone see Modern Marvels about Bullets? Late last night (3/7/06) I saw part of the show where a special bullet would go through a steel plate and leave a small hole but when shot through a chunk of meat it expanded and blew the meat apart. Anyone see this - have any links for more info about that bullet? __________________ Psalm {14:1} The fool hath said in his heart, [There is] no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, [there is] none that doeth good.

March 10th, 2006, 10:37 PM	#3
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,366	Not sure but - is this the Xtreme Shock (tungsten powder filled) deal? Pakn - give some feedback when you get to see the tape. __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

March 10th, 2006, 11:15 PM	#5
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,366	Thx for info - yep - ''blended metal'' seems one way to go for extreme results. The other computer controlled (so called) have me so far wondering juts how they do it all!! __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

March 11th, 2006, 12:37 PM	#7
Sheldon J Distinguished Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Battle Creek, Mi. Posts: 1,686	Aguila for home use that stuff is suppose to shoot through a car door or level II but yet go all over the place when it hits soft tissue. Up here in Mi the gun shops will not sell it to and individual unless they are CPL or LEO. There are a lot of nice ammo choices out there but the stuff the MIL has leaves any thing we have in the dust. __________________ "The sword dose not cause the murder, and the maker of the sword dose not bear sin" Rabbi Solomon ben Isaac 11th century

March 13th, 2006, 08:37 PM	#9
Rock and Glock VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado at 9,500' Posts: 3,797	Hey Pointblank! Welcome to CC, and thanks for posting! Have ya popped over to "Introductions" and into'd yourself? Welcome! __________________ Richard NRA Life Member "This world is not a playground where children at play are pampered by friendly nannies," Wendelin Wiedeking

March 10th, 2006, 10:28 PM	#2
paknheat Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 248	Hello ArmyCop, I am watching it right now,3/10/06. I taped it because it was running the same night as my Haganah class.Really cool info, I like the concept of the smart bullet. The whole thing is making my trigger finger itchy.

March 10th, 2006, 11:10 PM	#4
paknheat Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 248	95, There are two different smart bullet types they talked about, neither are available to us civilian types. One is manufactured by Le Mas . It uses a blended smart metal type of technology that will enable the bullet, pistol or rifle, to totally penetrate plate metal armor.The neat trick is this same bullet, when recognizing that it is now in flesh will fragment with such a force that it "explodes."Thus there is no more over penetration . The other was Army experiment . It comes in two flavors,5.56 and 20mm They are computer programmed , Thru a firing control system in the weapon itself, to travel a certian distance and air burst over the target. They are trying to perfect these two to travel around corners. It was impressive on video. It is a shame that Le Mas caters this round to LEO & Military sales. It would be the perfect CCW round , and it comes in my current favorite , 10mm.

March 10th, 2006, 11:39 PM	#6
paknheat Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 248	I think its all an ancient chinese secret, or maybe VooDoo.Its the govt. if they told ud they'ed have to kill us. LOL. The "rifle" they were shooting thes things out of were cumbersome looking things . They were basiclly a guided missle launcher that was shrunk.There is a microscopic chip in the base of the"bullet" and the computer feeds the range info into the bullet @ firing. When it reached its pre-determined coordinites it air bursts above the soft targets and shreds them up,and intresting enough they will penetrate obstrutions to get where they need to go. Whitetail season just would'nt be the same with this though.LOL.

March 13th, 2006, 08:09 PM	#8
Pointblank Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metro Cleveland Posts: 19	That performance sounds a lot like what CorBon DPX actually has done in tests on clothed gelatin and barriers.

March 14th, 2006, 03:17 PM	#10
ExSoldier VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Coral Gables, FL Posts: 4,209	Supposedly the RBCD round is blended metal technology and they sell to the public. http://www.rbcd.net There are lots of conflicting stories about this company and it's product. My good buddy who IIRC has made 06 (Full Colonel) in Special Forces swears by them. I have them in my spare mags for my 40. I can't find them at a gun show for my 45. I did find this one box of 20rds for just about $20. Normally they sell 20rds for $50! __________________ Former Infantry Captain; 20 yrs as an NRA Certified Instructor; Avid practitioner of the martial art: KLIK-PAO.

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