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I really like the following out of my G30:
a) Federal 230 gr HSTs (+P and non +P) b) Double Tap Bonded defense 230 gr. c) Speer Gold Dot 200 gr JHP +P d) Remington UMC JHP 230 gr when ther is none of a), b) or c) available They are all really accurate, powerful and always go bang...
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US Special Forces have switched back to the .45 Cal. from the 9mm according to Mr. Vickers for it's stopping power / CQB.....guess they learned.
What makes you think our boys would use HP ammo if they could....less penetration definately. I've never heard of anyone continue arguing after being hit with a 230 gr. FMJ. |
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Well you ain't special forces bud. If you carry fmj you better hit what your shooting at. Overpenetration with fmj should be a consideration. Not just because our military uses it. They have no choice.
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ok.......BUD.
I can hit what I aim at.......no problem here, and how do you know what branch of the military I served in...? |
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hornady 230 xtp +p and 230 fmj mixed in there also
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Also if you've never heard of anyone continuing to fight after being shot with a FMJ then my guess is your not researching your ammo selection enough. For my 1911 I use Federal Premium Expanding FMJ. I use it because I know it feeds reliably in the gun and still have the expansion of a JHP. An average FMJ makes a .45 inch hole in the target and Expanding FMJ or a JHP makes roughly a .89 inch hole. I wouldn't want to be shot with either but if I'm going to trust my life to a EDC ammo I'm going to select the one that works reliably and makes the largest hole.
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I stick to ammo that I know from experience will not jam and feeds reliably. The ammo with the best ballistics ain't worth a darn if it doesn't feed flawlessly or causes a jam. My experience is with Glock 36's and my Kimber Tactical Ultra II with it's 3" barrel. I've had good feeding and accuracy with:
230 gr Golden Saber 230 gr Hornady TAP Glaser 165 gr PowerBall (some folks dislike these but they feed like FMJ) I have had a few FTF's with the 165 gr CorBon's but their other (higher weight) loads worked fine. Pick up a box of several and try them. You will quickly find which feed flawlessly and hit at point of aim. Those are your rounds.
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Last edited by xXxplosive; June 26th, 2009 at 12:42 PM.. Reason: not worth it. |
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Out of my shorter-barreled .45's (G30, G36), I've found that 200+P seem to work best for me.
My choices in that weight are either Gold Dot or Hornady TAP/FPD, and I prefer Gold Dot--they seem to have a lot less muzzle flash.
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