Range Owner Says Speer's .45 Cal. 200+p is no good??? - Page 3

boscobeans · July 6th, 2009, 11:56 AM

I'm not an engineer,
but it seems the Speer bullet could use some updating."

Speer bullet pictured is a few years old.. It has a cavity the size of the famous FLYING ASHTRAY.

As far as I know it is a generic and Speer saw its shortcomings and fluted the jacket after finding that the bullet did expand but tumbled dramatically. I have recovered several from water jugs (Colt 1911 5") and they all had expanded greatly but it seemed the expansion was lopsided.

bosco

sigmanluke · July 6th, 2009, 12:25 PM

I carry this ammo in my Sig P220R, and couldn't be happier. I have carried other loads and from other manufacturers, but once I found this, I haven't changed since. This feeds flawlessly in my gun, and shoots accurately. I like it's balistics on paper, thank goodness I've never had to shoot anything other than practice. But I trust them completely.

Here are a few pics of what I carry.

ExSoldier · July 6th, 2009, 02:28 PM

The "FLYING ASHTRAY" has been a LEO standard for DECADES. I have some of the originals back from the 70's and 80's. Still good and I'd trust my life to them in a second. A range owner is usually a BUSINESSMAN FIRST So, what's he trying to sell you?

ExSoldier · July 6th, 2009, 02:31 PM

As far as conventional loads for the 45 go (I carry MagSafe & RBCD, but that's just ME) I like Golden Saber and Hydra-Shok in the 185gr range. I do have like 500rds of the old Black Talon laying around somewhere. I heard they act like kryptonite on Baby Blue Helmets, but I haven't tested that....yet.

July 6th, 2009, 02:28 PM	#23
ExSoldier VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Coral Gables, FL Posts: 4,853	The "FLYING ASHTRAY" has been a LEO standard for DECADES. I have some of the originals back from the 70's and 80's. Still good and I'd trust my life to them in a second. A range owner is usually a BUSINESSMAN FIRST So, what's he trying to sell you? __________________ Former Infantry Captain; 20 yrs as an NRA Certified Instructor; Avid practitioner of the martial art: KLIK-PAO.

July 6th, 2009, 02:31 PM	#24
ExSoldier VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Coral Gables, FL Posts: 4,853	As far as conventional loads for the 45 go (I carry MagSafe & RBCD, but that's just ME) I like Golden Saber and Hydra-Shok in the 185gr range. I do have like 500rds of the old Black Talon laying around somewhere. I heard they act like kryptonite on Baby Blue Helmets, but I haven't tested that....yet. __________________ Former Infantry Captain; 20 yrs as an NRA Certified Instructor; Avid practitioner of the martial art: KLIK-PAO.

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July 6th, 2009, 11:56 AM	#21
boscobeans Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: upstate new york Posts: 719	I'm not an engineer, but it seems the Speer bullet could use some updating." Speer bullet pictured is a few years old.. It has a cavity the size of the famous FLYING ASHTRAY. As far as I know it is a generic and Speer saw its shortcomings and fluted the jacket after finding that the bullet did expand but tumbled dramatically. I have recovered several from water jugs (Colt 1911 5") and they all had expanded greatly but it seemed the expansion was lopsided. bosco